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Hickie - show me the studies that show that antibodies from the Wuhan-1 targeting vaccines do not cause ADE when presented with later Omicron variants.

Israel - Negative effectiveness

Barnstable County - Negative effectiveness

Ontario - More vaxxed hospitalized

CDC had to change the cycle threshold for reporting vaxxed cases to <27

Dr. Fantini's study has now been validated.

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/study-suggests-that-moderna-and-pfizer?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

BTW, we were talking about Pathogenic Priming.

Oops, a Nature study on a novel mechanism of ADE in from SCV2

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-022-03207-0

Popular Rationalists have already seen the data.

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PS - Science in never about "proof".

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I can tell that you didn't read the paper, because it seems one of the easiest ways to push back on James' concerns is to note that the patient mostly recovered: the neck pain decreased, the area of concern on the ultrasound gradually decreased and disappeared, and the only remaining concern they had was hypothyroidism, which they dock for follow-up to determine if this is transient or permanent. So, not altogether bad, not altogether good, but a promising recovery with the treatment they used (judging by their language). Without that treatment, would the harms have remained "subacute"?

But, it's also shown in the paper that this case report has links to several other reports and findings, so it's not an isolated case, it does support theories concerning mechanisms for adverse events, and the paper's argument —look again carefully at the section James quotes!— is that this is not a problem with "mRNA vaccine" specifically but a concerning issue related to Spike itself, so it will be a problem with infections and transfections and any therapies designed to solicit the production of Spike. The context for the quoted paragraph makes this point even more explicitly.

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Hickie - I'll relax when you can use your amazing powers of allopathic medicine and bring back the people the vaccine - and the early treatment denialista and hospital protocolists answering to their pharma masters - put into the ground.

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Any new insight as to what percentage of the vaccinated will be affected? How severely, what range in severity, health status over time?

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We're seeing numbers over the short-term ranging from 7-25% - indirectly from suppressed data Aaron Siri had to go to court to see. https://www.foxnews.com/video/6313218294112 Long term? That likely depends on how many boosters people accept.

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Yikes.

It’s absolutely criminal that the authorities aren’t warning people about this!

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Just curious: You cited the Pfizer trial data obtained by Aaron Siri, but I never hear about Moderna's trial data and I can't find anything about it. Do you know what is going on with Moderna's data?

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I'm sorry to say I don't have a bead on that. I'll ask Aaron, but he may not wish to discuss that for obvious reasons.

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You have misspelled "Moderna and Pfizer are twisting the data still"

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All I've managed to find is the following two year old announcement (url below), so I assume access to all of the data is still being litigated...

https://informedchoicewa.org/covid-19-vaccines/ican-update-moderna-phase-1-clinical-trial-data/

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This past weekend in a town right next to me, they held a mass C-booster event at at the convention center. 2400 people showed up for their third or forth shot. The few that were featured on the local news were very, very proud of themselves.

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I posted this on the private group on Facebook “Died Suddenly News”... Everyone should check it out... It got shut down after 300,000 people joined the fastest growing Facebook page ever but then he managed to bring it back online and he’s trying to develop his own Internet platform so we the family of injured and we the ones with death in our families can share our stories...

“I am just beside myself… A very physically fit friend who took the 3rd cup of tea last November, within weeks had stage four bone cancer… She’s been through heavy chemotherapy and stem cell transplants this past year… A horrendous ordeal.

Now the doctors are going to be giving her a new round of tea starting next month! Are these doctors out of their minds? With all of the information that’s out there, This can’t be possible that the doctors don’t know the harm that’s being caused…

Of course I can’t visit her because I did not drink the tea!”

And of course we can’t use words like deathVAX

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OK I posted the above before I actually read the article and now I would like to report my own personal story

My 35-year-old daughter After her third shot her thyroid swelled up the size of a golf ball where it was hard to swallow and talk so at her age she had to have the thyroid removed completely and this is after she developed severe Bell’s palsy after the first deathVAX

And she sees no connection

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Even if she saw a connection, the medical staff would gaslight her. It is a horrible situation. I am so sorry.

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The curse of Cassandra - "fated by Apollo to utter true prophecies but never to be believed." Except that the story of the fall of Troy never tells of those that believed, prepared and evacuated in time. Knowledge is a curse, a gift and a responsibility. How you apply that knowledge determines how it will be perceived and appreciated...curse or gift.

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Oct 12, 2022Liked by James Lyons-Weiler

I wish Dr. James was wrong, but he is not. I feel like we are living through a nightmare and I'm so grateful Dr. James created IPAK so we don't have to face this alone.

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Thank you Suanne. I have worked hard to try to bring reason to the madness in the MSM and in policy. I'm grateful for all of you beyond words.

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Note to readers: Inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine (BBIBP-CorV) is the Sinopharm (China) vaccine, which is an injection of inactivated virus and thus would actually *would be* a classical vaccine, if it conferred immunity.

It is NOT a gene-transfection product like those from Moderna, Pfizer, J&J, Russia (Sputnik) etc.

We should expect that adverse effects from the BBIBP-CorV vaccine also occur from a symptomatic Sars-CoV-2 infection.

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Important distinction, true. To complement this distinction, there's also this from the paper JLW cites:

"Furthermore, through the subacute thyroiditis cases reported with non-adjuvanted SARS-CoV-2 vaccines (BNT162b2, Moderna), it has become more evident that SARS-CoV-2 vaccine itself (mainly S protein) plays a more important role than adjuvant in the development of subacute thyroiditis (9, 10)."

The two papers they cite to support that claim are:

9. Bornemann C, Woyk K, Bouter C. Case Report: Two cases of subacute thyroiditis following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Front Med (Lausanne). (2021) 8:737142. 10.3389/fmed.2021.737142

10. Franquemont S, Galvez J. Subacute thyroiditis after mRNA vaccine for COVID-19. J Endocrine Soc. (2021) 5:A956–A57. 10.1210/jendso/bvab048.1954

So, what do all three (inactivated inoculation, transfection, infection) have in common?

I think this also is a small pushback of sorts against Marc Girardot's working frame that much/many/most of the harmful adverse effects people experience are the result of the lipid nanoparticles. Girardot was recently in a talk with Mathew Crawford of Rounding the Earth. There aren't LNPs with the Sinopharm or "wild type" infection, right?

One way to really test these hypotheses is if the mRNA were formulated to produce N, the nucleocapsid protein, without producing Spike. Being ignorant, I'm unable to discern why this is not done, when I, being a potential consumer of pharmaceutical products, have been told by Moderna advertising that the computational platform they've developed can generate all manner of proteins within the body's own cells.

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Oct 12, 2022·edited Oct 12, 2022

"There aren't LNPs with the Sinopharm or "wild type" infection, right?" Correct, as far as we know. And there's no reason for them to be there.

All the products have spike in common.

Thanks for the infos Polemos!

Girardot's discussion with Crawford is here https://www.bitchute.com/video/nESfRPjQKpJX/

His arguments for mucosal immunity seem well supported.

The argument that LNP helps the modRNA pass BBB and transfect brain cells is also reasonable based on what we know of LNP.

But this wouldn't mean LNP alone is *the* danger in these injectable products. And I haven't seen him write claims to this effect. Girardot's claim about damage to blood vessel walls in the RTE bitchute is based on immune system destroying transfected cells, and thus causing damage and clotting.

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I heard the whole discussion on the dangers of nanoparticles in the vaccine. You Tube has just censored it.

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Right, not "alone" but "much/many/most" of the adverse effects. As I understand his unified theory on vaccine toxicity, when the LNPs are injected IV rather than IM (the bolus aspect of the theory), the LNPs circulate in greater doses throughout the body and travel much faster. And because LNPs by their design penetrate barriers, what was originally going to be a slow penetration in a tighter area (making it easier for the immune system to respond and recover) becomes a quick penetration into multiple systems and areas. These little perforations throughout multiple barriers then cause differing adverse effects in different systems, which is why there is such a wide variety of symptoms (and, subssequently, makes it both easier to hide adverse effects and more difficult to correlate adverse effects with the injection therapy). The place where I am pulling this synopsis from is Marc's site here:

https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/can-vaccines-be-dangerous-to-pregnant

He is specific that it's not so much the Spike but the use of nanoparticles —notice his own bold emphasis here from that link: "this applies not only to mRNA/DNA vaccines, but also to more traditional attenuated vaccines," but with the supplied premise being that these "more traditional attenuated vaccines" do contain nanoparticles (for delivery, as adjuvants, &c).

And, I take it that it's also Mathew's response that Marc is arguing away from an emphasis on Spike and more on the use of LNPs and the method of innjection. Looking at Mathew's link: https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/a-model-of-nanoparticles-as-the-primary , I notice the following language:

"This took some time because as many in the medical freedom movement have, I bought into the spike protein story as the primary hypothesis for vaccine-associated illness. But that's a tough hypothesis to either accept or reject when you're not a biologist working on the evidence full time."

—He "bought into" Spike as "the primary hypothesis" but has since "moved closer towards" Marc's theory.

"There is still room for theories of prion disease, but direct induced prion disease may turn out to be a small fraction of vaccine-associated harms. There is still room for spike protein damage in a grand unified theory, but Marc has a pretty good list of responses to the spike protein as anything like a primary concern."

—For alternate theories such as prion disorders or Spike damage, there is "still room" but the former are "a small fraction" of the AEs and for the latter Marc "has a pretty good list of responses" to show it as "anything like a primary concern." I take that language to be diminishing the emphasis on the role Spike plays, insofar as the responses help to show that Spike is not as primary a concern as the inappropriate use and application nanoparticles.

From a much broader viewpoint, I'll say that Mathew's language about keeping an open mind, checking for contradictory data in our mental catalog, noticing the "firehose" of information and how it can "steer" us in directions intentionally and unintentionally (Mathew's well aware, I think, of the Nudge theory of information "management" put forward by Sunstein and Thaler), and his own statements of undergoing a natural process of suasion are themselves indications of carefully walking his audience into taking a more critical stance towards focusing on Spike alone. (Sometimes I feel like I cannot not use prepositions.) Given that people are not always aware how their own epistemic commitments become emotionally attached to their self-estimations, it's important to find ways to detach an audience's emotions from how they process and orient themselves to their information —this isn't to say we need to make conclusions like emotionless algomachines, but the mindfulness training one finds in CBT, or Buddhism, or martial arts, or therapies for PTSD, or prayer/meditation generally also demonstrates how that little distance one takes to one's own emotions and thoughts opens up the whole self to choices to change behaviors.

Locking people into deeper attachments with their beliefs and frameworks usually comes about through strong emotions: this is one of the upshots of the kind of work you find in Bernays but also in Kahneman and Tversky. And as people often remark: they remember vividly their most emotional moments and crises, to the point where some experience trauma memories as inescapable and leading to obsessive thinking.

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That is the heaviest response I have ever gotten to a substack comment and I will not be able to digest it for days.

At this point it seems weird and implausible to me, but you might change my mind.

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I'm not saying this is my own position. I'm just trying to summarize and contextualize what I take to be Marc Girardot's position, with some commentary about Mathew Crawford's take given he was the one having the discussion with Marc in the video we both watched.

I'm sorry for making the comment dense. I am sometimes pressed for time and rush things.

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Oct 13, 2022·edited Oct 13, 2022Liked by James Lyons-Weiler

[Edit] Not spending days on this. As far as I can tell, Marc is just making this stuff up; Pure conjecture.

Lipid nanoparticles are taken up by cells via endocytosis. For them to act like artillery shrapnel to cells would require invalidating a lot of research and overturning our understanding of cell biology. His musings on Substack do not begin to achieve this.

An overview: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8069344/

From another article:

"Once they reach target cells, lipid nanoparticles can be internalized by multiple mechanisms, including macropinocytosis and clathrin-mediated and caveolae-mediated endocytosis. The endocytic pathway depends on the properties of the nanoparticle and the cell type."

Miao L, et al. Synergistic lipid compositions for albumin receptor mediated delivery of mRNA to the liver. Nat. Commun. 2020;11:2424. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7229004/

Zhang X, et al. Functionalized lipid-like nanoparticles for in vivo mRNA delivery and base editing. Sci. Adv. 2020;6:eabc2315. Zhang X, et al. Functionalized lipid-like nanoparticles for in vivo mRNA delivery and base editing. Sci. Adv. 2020;6:eabc2315. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32937374/

Hou X, et al. Vitamin lipid nanoparticles enable adoptive macrophage transfer for the treatment of multidrug-resistant bacterial sepsis. Nat. Nanotechnol. 2020;15:41–46.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7181370/

Please don't construe my comment as a claim that SLNs or NLCs have no adverse effects. This has been studied. Some relevant research can be found here:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29191134/

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and it's only just begun........

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I hope you're wrong, too.

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There are numerous protocols protocols out there to reverse the damage or at least try and I hope many people use them.

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Every single person who took this vaccine is in for a lifetime disaster, eventually.

Sad that no one cares.

All those poor children who are going to die for nothing, by soulless adults who could t care less to fight for them.

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Thank you!

Sadly, your discussions about pathogenic priming were brilliantly prescient.

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