You wrote: I won’t interpret these as self-inflicted wounds on wealthy countries, but some might argue that there is no evidence that vaccine access reduces cases and mortality.
My question: I see no mention of the possible intention of the differences between groups maybe being to further eliminate what is left of the middle class in which case they appear to be successful. The important takeaway from me pointing this out is the communication gap created when separate lifestyle groups are further separated by lifestyle experiences, I would call this an intentional divide and conquer move. Isolate the poor from any source of discretionary money to spend and drive the people with discretionary income further away from the day to day experiences of the poor. The poor relying on the laws of (peoples) nature and discretionary income lifestyle of ignoring many if not all laws of nature. I am assuming money does allow us to make believe how life is. I did not say wealth but did intentionally say money.
Even so, the Upper income won't have an identical age distribution as Upper middle income for example. I can also imagine that Low income includes relatively more young people. I don't believe it will explain the difference but it's too easy to disqualify the charts this way. "Confounding!"
If you objective is to disqualify population-level data by claiming - without evidence - that something MIGHT be a confounder, you're making pedestrian comments. You can access age distribution data and answer the question, so go ahead, test your hypothesis, the data are all public. Also: NEAR ZERO DEATHS IN LOW INCOME COUNTRIES CANNOT BE DISQUALIFIED BY ANYTHING AND DESERVE AN EXPLANATION.
It's not my objective. I've done similar correlative graphs and this was always the main objection: "confounding". We never did it on income though. We might do the same analysis for the Netherlands but I will have to have my answer ready to address that critique.
Higher income is surely correlated with higher levels of education (indoctrination) which can account for higher vaccination rates among top earners. In my social circle, the most vaccinated people are the most indoctrinated.
Yes. They acquiesce to perceived authority. They walk around thinking how medically advanced society is without giving a second thought about the motives behind the creators of Big Tech, Big Ag, and Big Pharma. They are Gods in their eyes.
I’m going to guess that there is a high correlation between income level and mass-media news consumption. I’d also wager that folks who looked at and relied on the dashboards are in the same grouping.
I admit I had to look at those charts several times to be sure what they "said". What I got was that the poor folk fared best: they had the fewest cases (of covid?) and fewest deaths. While the upper class folk fared worst in terms of cases and deaths. Why???
I'm right there with you. In my lifetime, I've encountered two truths about "lower income" earners. They tend to be distrustful of government and they are street smart. They can smell a BS con-artist a mile away. Hubris and blind trust in the cult of science is what did in the upper wage earners.
I am guessing here. The poor ignored the govt. edicts to get tested, get jabbed, social distance, and wear a mask. While the more wealthy embraced it all, apparently their education and social circles did not question either the virus story or the jab story; either that or their social ties lured them beyond caution. I frankly find that inexplicable.
Did you produce the last two charts yourself? Or were they produced by OWID? I’m trying to locate them on OWID’s site but I’m having difficulty in finding them.
Just WOW!
My words exactly.
Amazing stats. Thanks for sharing.
shared. keep it comin' - so important!
You wrote: I won’t interpret these as self-inflicted wounds on wealthy countries, but some might argue that there is no evidence that vaccine access reduces cases and mortality.
My question: I see no mention of the possible intention of the differences between groups maybe being to further eliminate what is left of the middle class in which case they appear to be successful. The important takeaway from me pointing this out is the communication gap created when separate lifestyle groups are further separated by lifestyle experiences, I would call this an intentional divide and conquer move. Isolate the poor from any source of discretionary money to spend and drive the people with discretionary income further away from the day to day experiences of the poor. The poor relying on the laws of (peoples) nature and discretionary income lifestyle of ignoring many if not all laws of nature. I am assuming money does allow us to make believe how life is. I did not say wealth but did intentionally say money.
Very nice but income tends to rise with age, I think you should age-adjust to eliminate at least that effect.
These are country-level data.
Even so, the Upper income won't have an identical age distribution as Upper middle income for example. I can also imagine that Low income includes relatively more young people. I don't believe it will explain the difference but it's too easy to disqualify the charts this way. "Confounding!"
If you objective is to disqualify population-level data by claiming - without evidence - that something MIGHT be a confounder, you're making pedestrian comments. You can access age distribution data and answer the question, so go ahead, test your hypothesis, the data are all public. Also: NEAR ZERO DEATHS IN LOW INCOME COUNTRIES CANNOT BE DISQUALIFIED BY ANYTHING AND DESERVE AN EXPLANATION.
It's not my objective. I've done similar correlative graphs and this was always the main objection: "confounding". We never did it on income though. We might do the same analysis for the Netherlands but I will have to have my answer ready to address that critique.
Higher income is surely correlated with higher levels of education (indoctrination) which can account for higher vaccination rates among top earners. In my social circle, the most vaccinated people are the most indoctrinated.
Yes. They acquiesce to perceived authority. They walk around thinking how medically advanced society is without giving a second thought about the motives behind the creators of Big Tech, Big Ag, and Big Pharma. They are Gods in their eyes.
I’m going to guess that there is a high correlation between income level and mass-media news consumption. I’d also wager that folks who looked at and relied on the dashboards are in the same grouping.
I admit I had to look at those charts several times to be sure what they "said". What I got was that the poor folk fared best: they had the fewest cases (of covid?) and fewest deaths. While the upper class folk fared worst in terms of cases and deaths. Why???
I'm right there with you. In my lifetime, I've encountered two truths about "lower income" earners. They tend to be distrustful of government and they are street smart. They can smell a BS con-artist a mile away. Hubris and blind trust in the cult of science is what did in the upper wage earners.
I am guessing here. The poor ignored the govt. edicts to get tested, get jabbed, social distance, and wear a mask. While the more wealthy embraced it all, apparently their education and social circles did not question either the virus story or the jab story; either that or their social ties lured them beyond caution. I frankly find that inexplicable.
Did you produce the last two charts yourself? Or were they produced by OWID? I’m trying to locate them on OWID’s site but I’m having difficulty in finding them.