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Maurine Meleck's avatar

What a well written terrific article. Those of us already well aware of vaccine dangers due to raising someone with autism, didn't have to think twice about Covid vax dangers. The groupchats are very good.Everyone should join.

Mouzer's avatar
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Those of us old enough to remember FDA debacles like Vioxx, Thalidomide, as well as DDT mass spraying of neighboods and other actions also had a sceptical view of the jab.

Barry Riese's avatar

Excellent…and long overdue. The challenge before many of us who glimpsed the truth in the midst of the chaos, is to find common ground to regather our lost and confused friends and family. We must walk through the pain and heartbreak and welcome back those lost to the OVERLORDS of disinformation .

Mouzer's avatar

If they are willing to let go of our "heresy" or, in the case of my friend who had every jab and boost, can. With neurological damage she is now in a home and can't live alone. We could only maintain a relationship by avoiding certain subjects.

Barry Riese's avatar

I have found that, absent observable neurological damage, these folks are wedded to holding on tightly to beliefs demonstrably untrue. This fact warrants serious investigation as to how they have come to this state

Mouzer's avatar
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It does need more investigation. From what I've read, some folks just can't accept they could be wrong or fooled. It takes a strong person to admit error. But in many cases it seems to be an argument of fact vs fact. Sadly some facts aren't.

Barry Riese's avatar

Unfortunately, today our folks have shifted to being other directed…they are not able to self reflect, no inner awareness…you can blame that on a society that supports the importance of”LIKES” and “ RETWEETS”. We older folks, as the gate keepers, bear much of the blame.

Mouzer's avatar
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This article rings true. It makes me recall the experiments of Stanley Milgram, which have been repeated around the world in many cultures. Depending on the conditions, roughly 80% of people followed what they believed were demands by an authority, even in some experimental conditions to the point they believed they would kill someone.

Looking at revolutions or covid shots, there were some early who called for change and, having done so, others heard their call. As I recall some 22% of the public in one article were against the jab early on. In some ways amusing, those calling for putting people in camps, not getting medical care without covid vaccination and so on try to pretend they didn't go there. My friend told me at work in a meeting she told a coworker, who denied it, that she called for putting her in a reeducation camp. My friend said, "I still have your email." A historically based movie, The Labyrinth, shows this denial is typical human nature for those involved in shutting others down.

Because of this behavior of the majority, psychological manipulation has been honed to a fine point and used not only by advertising, but governments. This is depressingly documented in “Covid-19,” Psychological Operations, and the War for Technocracy by David Hume.

In 1543 Copernicus published his work that the earth revolves around the sun, largely accepted by the scientific community, but the Catholic Church didn't lift their ban on these books until the 1800's though others had come to accept the idea earlier. This is one example of how power fights to maintain control, for change would require reassessing their belief or intellectual foundations and admitting to being incorrect.

So, while truth eventually outs, when truth tellers' reputations and lives may be repaired by it, the depressing fact is that roughly 80% will follow authority, that authority will lie and fight to keep control, and free thinkers and truth tellers will be attacked.

What this means is most people who have come over to the other side on things like the jab will once again be against truth tellers for new situations. That means a person in that 20% who sees things differently based on facts or morality should remember Sun Tsu: “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

James Lyons-Weiler, PhD's avatar

Bioethics is no longer taught or taken seriously, and bioethicists no longer do bioethics. That has to change.

Mouzer's avatar

That is why articles like this are critical. It refuses to let deniers skate, it helps repair the lives and reputations of truth tellers, and it confirms and stengthens truth tellers. We can hope that recalling the true past for those who would forget encourages them avoid overreacting with fright to the next situation.

Sue S's avatar

Thanks for the really great article. How sad that we are still having to fight for the right to bring truth into awareness. Then fight again for the right to live by the truth. I have found that so called friends and associates do not care enough about truth to fight for it and seem to think this will blow over. Even a lawyer friend who should be smart enough to figure out what is happening seems to be brain washed. Maybe it is his professional organization that is brainwashing him. One thing for sure if we can bring the matrix down there will be no illusion. If we have a solar flare or can somehow blank the matrix it will fall. And when the ET's show up people will have to either accept them or go crazy.