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Maurine Meleck's avatar

might want to add dairy to the list. But why organic fruits?

pobrecollie's avatar

Saurkraut is very easy and cheap to make, and likely a lot better than commercial probiotcs. Kefir as well if you have grains.

I heard that probiotic yogurt type stuff is actually pasteurized then they add a bit of live culture at the end, seems kind of crazy.

hammercat's avatar

Super valuable article. Thank you so much

Martha's avatar

I've been seeing a lot of articles recently about the gut-brain axis and the criticality of gut health. This article addresses depression, but there is much to support the importance of gut health in fighting COVID, Long COVID, and vaccine injury.

Ricardo R Bartelme, MD's avatar

I don't find this article to be very impressive. At most, it is a preliminary and small study of short duration (4 wks). There is a strong placebo response that is very comparable to the probiotic treatment group. While there are statistical differences found, the clinical significance of them is minimal at best. Short-term trials (4-6-8 weeks) plague the psychiatric literature and it's difficult to say what crucially will happen over the next several months to years. The Hamilton Depression scores are only in the mild to moderate range (depending on the rating system used) and in this range there is a high placebo response and/or a high degree of spontaneous improvement.

pobrecollie's avatar

Sure, and they say something similar in the conclusions, but it is interesting to see a relatively natural intervention being used compared to pharma products. Wasn't the SSRI thing shown to be a con recently after how many millions have been taking them?

toolate's avatar

Was the trial sponsored by the manufacturer