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Everything Voluntary Jack's avatar

Thanks James for this alert and defanging of the Global Predators.

"The truth doesn't sell. It is high in supply, but little in demand." Eric Schaub

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KarlM Alias's avatar

Both cholesterol sulphate and vitamin D sulphate are far superior to the fat-soluble versions, and can only be gained via UVB. Also, glyphosate which is now ubiquitous in non-organic food, destroys the body's ability to synthesise vit D;

https://evolutionaryhealthplan.info/#_Ref9770789

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Tom Hogan's avatar

Actually, sulphated vit D is produced primarily in the small intestine and liver. Only a tiny amount is produced in the skin. Hence, most vitamin D produced by the skin is in the fat-soluble form. Also, fat-soluble vit D supplements will be sulfated in the small intestine and liver.

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KarlM Alias's avatar

But where does the sulphate come from in the first place?

Dr. S. Seneff states:

'When sunshine or UVB light strikes your skin, vitamin D sulfate is produced. The vitamin D transports this sulfate to your liver, where the vitamin D gets oxidized by the CYP enzyme, thus becoming activated. Next, it’s transported to your kidney where it gets activated with another cytochrome p450 enzyme. You now have double-activated vitamin D.'

She is against using high-dose oral vitamin D supplements, because doing so might fool your body into thinking the sulfate system is working when in reality it’s not. Essentially, the process begins in your skin.

What is certain is that the skin can produce copius amounts of pre-vit D3. Therefore we have a negative feedback system whereby D3 production is inhibited when exposed to UVA.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

Vit D "deficiency" is as big a scam as is the cholesterol scare and scam over past decades.

Synthesized Vit. D products have serious health consequences including bone and teeth degradation, bone pain, dementia, and cause other serious health issues.

To get the needed benefits of sunlight take a walk daily in daylight without make-up, sunscreen, or sunglasses.

Skip Vit D labwork.

Eat healthfully.

Rest adequately.

De-stress.

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Tom Hogan's avatar

Yeah, right, take a walk in 20F weather in winter.

Brilliant!

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

RN, BSN here caring for patients for over 40 years. I am 68 years old and habe no health issues nor require no medications. Active. No broken bones ever. You?

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Alison F's avatar

Are you this Lauretta Walker? https://www.linkedin.com/in/loretta-walker-595548a8/ The spelling of your first name is different, but everything else matches what you claim in your comments here. Except, your LinkedIn says, "My name is Loretta Walker and I am a senior at the University of Michigan-Flint. I am currently seeking to obtain my Bachelors of Science in Nursing (BSN) degree and receive my Registered Nurse (RN) license." Perhaps you need to update? It says you started the BSN program in 2016, so I assume you've earned your degree by now.

I think it's great that you have achieved so much, but it does seem a bit disingenuous to imply that you have been caring for patients for over 40 years as an RN, if you have only recently earned your RN BSN.

As for your claim of having no health issues nor requiring meds, that's just anecdote, and proves nothing. I can say that I had serious medical issues that were resolved by addressing my vitamin D deficiency, but that is also anecdote and proves nothing.

So perhaps we should simply acknowledge that your personal health has no bearing on the serum vitamin D status of others.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/loretta-walker-595548a8/

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

This is not me.

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Tom Hogan's avatar

Dodgy Debaters' Tactic 107

Can't answer a point, distract.

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Just_Henry's avatar

Agree with the recommendation for sunlight. Everything else you’ve said is bullshit.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

Your rudeness Shines like the Beacon you are not.

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krishna e bera's avatar

Whats wrong with eating healthfully and getting enough rest?

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

Ps:

The cholesterol scamdemic has pushed dementia and all manner of health problems with the use of statins.

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Alison F's avatar

Your body cannot make vitamin D from the sunlight for most of the year unless you live south of the 37th parallel. https://www.health.com/37th-parallel-vitamin-d-deficiency-8364004

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

I live and work in the frozen north where winter temps are some of the coldest in winter and wind blows hard. One can work inside near windows. If one has contacts you can use clear glasses as eye protection rather than colored glasses.

The tests are as eroneous for "testing" for Vit D levels as cholesterol tests are for cholesterol and as PCR for the myriad "diseases" that have been "dianoses" with it.

Our bodies will use and make what we need if we feed them well and resist junk food and drink. Get off meds. Stay away from ALL vaccines!.

Our bodies need cholesterol for brain health and normal sexual hormone production.

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Alison F's avatar

"Except during the summer months, the skin makes little if any vitamin D from the sun at latitudes above 37 degrees north (in the United States, the shaded region in the map) or below 37 degrees south of the equator. People who live in these areas are at relatively greater risk for vitamin D deficiency."

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/time-for-more-vitamin-d

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krishna e bera's avatar

Also, most UVB which your skin needs to make vitamin D is blocked by glass.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

You wouldn't expect Harvard to say differently would you?

They pushed the cov.id.coup too.

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Alison F's avatar

Congratulations! You've managed to combine both a red herring AND an ad hominem fallacy into one argument. You're saying that Harvard was wrong on one issue, therefore you expect them to be wrong on every issue, which is both totally illogical, and is also a distraction from the actual discussion, as it provides no proof of your claim.

Look, I'm trying to be open-minded and consider your claim, but you really aren't providing a shred of supportive evidence.

Unless you are able to prove your claims with direct and conclusive evidence, those of us whose health issues have been traced to vitamin D deficiency and then successfully addressed with supplementation have absolutely no reason to listen.

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SaHiB's avatar

Don't wear sunglasses if you want cataracts. Agree on no needle sticks.

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Rust's avatar

You've made serious claims w/o any data to back them up. This seems to be a thing I have been seeing pop up on social media quite a bit lately, ie the dangers of taking Vitamin D3 supplements. The scare claim I see most often is that those supplements contain rat poison. From sources I do trust, it is my understanding that a healthy level of vitamin D results in a much more robust immune system and not at all the health concerns you mention.

Caveat: taken with K2.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

The Vit D scam is just that.

As the cholesterol and cancer scams prior.

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Ben Fen's avatar

Respectfully, you are incorrect regarding your comments regarding vitamin D. The immune system “runs” on vitD. Maybe you meant to say cholesterol is required for vitD manufacture?? Myriad studies (assuming the data aren’t faked…which is an entire separate topic) conclusively show that chronic vitD deficiency plays in role in most conditions ranging from covid to cancer. No cutaneous synthesized vitD occurs in winter months above 37 degrees latitude, therefore most people must supplement.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

The Vit D deficiency scam is just that.

The cholesterol scam is just that.

The cancer scam is just that.

The cov.id scam is just that.

All bolsters by bigus lab tests.

When we put our time and attention into getting healthy food and drink and keeping air, water, food and soils clean and free of synthesized chemicals and nanoCrap we will return to the health we were meant to enjoy. Along with adequate rest and meditation and productive, enjoyable activities.

This health is not found in vaccines nor medications nor in "supplements.

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Alison F's avatar

When there is a quantifiable deficiency in necessary nutrients and hormones, supplementation does restore health -- and, depending on circumstances, may be the only viable option.

If you are an RN BSN, you should KNOW that.

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Tom Hogan's avatar

"Take a walk in daylight."

Missing a key point--"at midday" 10-3, April-October north of 37th parallel

Other times, not so much vit D production

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

As i have repeatedly stated here I live in frozen north country where we have ling cold winters. Old timers used cod liver oil to supplement. Eskimos used whale blubber for winter health.

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Tom Hogan's avatar

Eskimos mostly ate seals. Seal blubber is loaded with vit D aka "rat poison."

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Jaye's avatar

It stores in body fat, too

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Tom Hogan's avatar

Surely, body fat is a storage compartment for vit D. If there is too much body fat, serum D3 may be minimal, so the liver won't have much to process and immune function suffers.

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Candy's avatar

It’s not lack of information. It’s deliberate. They want the population sick and weak. There’s money to be made from the sick and weak

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John P. Wallis's avatar

Once the sick and weak go bankruptcy, what's next? Conquer empty caves?

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Candy's avatar

The government pays with your tax dollars

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John P. Wallis's avatar

#DefundTyranny

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STH's avatar

And if you’ve had cancer, Dr. Gundry likes his patients d levels closer to 90-100.

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Rust's avatar

I have been told the same by an older doctor acquaintance of mine.

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Alison F's avatar

So the Endocrine Society's Clinical Practice Guidelines advises AGAINST routine screening for D deficiency in "generally healthy adults?"

These days, how is "generally healthy adult" defined, when 70% of Americans age 40-79 took at least one prescription drug in the last 30 days, and 22% USED FIVE OR MORE? See https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db347.htm

Is someone diagnosed high blood pressure considered "generally healthy?" Nearly half of US adults have hypertension. Hello, vitamin D status is associated with arterial blood pressure and hypertension risks. see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24974252/

and addressing vitamin D deficiency has been found to have a direct effect on lowering blood pressure (see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5356990/)

What about obesity? Depending on which state, we have 20-40% obesity rates in the US. And yes, it's strongly associated with vitamin D deficiency. See https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523120818?via%3Dihub

Diabetes? 15% of the adult US population has diabetes. Addressing D deficiency improves glycemic control. See https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18556494/

Asthma affects 1 in 12. Addressing D deficiency has preventive effects. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10425698/

What percentage of the population is actually "generally healthy," and what metric does the Endocrine Society use to determine this?

And, given that they exist to address ENDOCRINE ISSUES (which presumably interfere with good health), what are their recommendations for people with ENDOCRINE ISSUES?

Funny, they don't mention that.

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SaHiB's avatar

Perhaps the Endocrine Society should advise against metabolic syndrome-causing atypical antipsychotics like risperidone and olanzapine.

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Carol Crevier, RN MPH's avatar

Dr JLW—-Thank you for posting Dr. Wimalawansa’s commentary on the recent misguidance by the Endocrine Society. He has consistently given excellent guidance to clinicians in this area in the last four years, which Bill and I and our several thousand patients and their families. So few members of the public are able to grasp the pleiotropic and glorious molecular mechanisms of vitamin D3 within the human body. I hope that some of the vitD researchers will be able to post videos which demonstrate these mechanisms in a way that Jo Public can understand. Thanks again to both of you for your excellent scientific work across these last years. We are very grateful.

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Castigator's avatar

Prof. Seheult gave some lucid lectures on vit. D.

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John P. Wallis's avatar

There is NO magic pill. Recent studies suggest that even supplements are loaded with fillers that are by no means good for human consumption. The USA should ban it's own Western Medicine model and revert to Holistic Medicine derived from a healthy diet. After some 9 months of consuming Cacao twice daily I feel like a new man. Turning 64 in 3 weeks, I remain stronger than 4 of my 7 Sons. Last month I unloaded about 1,000, 45-50 pound bales of hay. The inflammation I used to experience from the standard American diet is nearly gone. I could probably use some Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine. Two years of no senses of taste or smell has angered me beyond belief. Fire your Doctor if you still have one. The USA should shut down EVERY QUACK offering anything other than a cast for broken arms or legs. As a child, my father once reset my broken collar bone and strapped a board to my back and shoulders. Growing up on the farm made us strong and independent. The number one thing missing from The USA today os INDEPENDENCE. For without INDEPENDENCE there can be no Freedom. #ResumeIndependenceOrExpectToDieCommunist #FuckFreeTrade #FuckModernMedicine #Fjb

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John P. Wallis's avatar

If it can be put into a pill it can be contaminated with whatever the baker wants to add to the cake.

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Maurine Meleck's avatar

No doctor ever recommended taking Vitamin D supps until some years after the autism doctors found it was ncessary for the children they trated. Docs never tested their patient for it either.

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Maurine Meleck's avatar

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it must be an allopathic doctor.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

I live and work in the frozen north in winter it gets as cold as anywhere in our known world at 5,000 feet elevation. I do not need Vit D supplementation. I do work near windows with good sunlight.

Vit D will not substitite for lack of natural sunlight.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

Research symptoms of supplementing with vit D.

They aren't pretty.

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Alison F's avatar

There's no such thing as "symptoms of supplementing with vitamin D."

It's certainly possible to take too much, and that does cause symptoms. But supplementing to address D deficiency causes GOOD symptoms -- like allowing the immune system to function properly, and like eliminating symptoms of rickets.

It's very strange that you keep posting unproven claims that ANY vitamin D supplementation is somehow bad.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

Give the body what it needs in clean food, water, air and no supplementation is needed.

As healthcare practitioners we see, if we are paying attention, the sad effects of years of medicating and supplementing with Vit D, with and without Vit K, and the effects are often extremely harmful but missed.

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Alison F's avatar

You are simply repeating something that SOUNDS like a good talking point, but it doesn't hold up in real life. You cannot give EVERY body what it needs in clean food, water, and air. Vitamin D is not the only necessary substance that is not available in whatever "clean" food people have access to, and there is very little truly clean food, water, and air these days anyway.

And, as pointed out to you over and over, there are areas of the country where people are unable to manufacture sufficient D from sun exposure except during summer months.

There are so many of us whose health significantly improved after addressing D deficiency (which is sadly quite common), if you were REALLY paying attention, you would understand the sad effects of not looking for, diagnosing, and addressing D deficiency.

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Dutch's avatar

The question is will broad swaths of humanity realize, hopefully before they're deathbed, that those in positions of power to affect their health are at best not the least bit interested in their health? It is quite clear now we must think for ourselves. Btw, on the Vit D issue we take Vit K2 as MK7 to help metabolize the D without calcification. Any thoughts on that?

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Castigator's avatar

Leafy vegetables would do the job naturally when supplementing with D.

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Lauretta Walker's avatar

Research vit D supplementation toxicity. Serious health issues result that patients and practitioners don't pick up on.

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Phil Davis's avatar

Excellent and to the point. This format of writing is exactly how I like to read health topics.

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