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Could you please provide sources for the news that "Italy has revised its estimated number of deaths from COVID-19 from over 390,000 to less than 4,000"? My whole family is in Italy and we've had endless uneasy conversations on the validity of PCR tests and the whole pandemic issue. I don't think they know about this and would like to inform them. Thank you

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I was about to ask the same question Linda asked. I've been searching and haven't been able to find anything as of yet. And thank you Dr. Jack, your work has been invaluable to us during all of this. :)

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Without links to sources, this is just clickbait as usual

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I also cannot find the source that isn't has revised their numbers.

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I have been seeing people say they cannot find the sources on facebook, twitter, and now here, therefore it's not true. People have weak Google skills. I mean I know it's hidden away from you purposefully by the censors to avoid you coming into contact with the truth, but you just have to try harder. Seriously.

Here is the original source article: https://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/italie-seuls-29-des-morts-du-covid-19-ont-effectivement-succombe-au-virus

Here is the ISS report: https://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/ReportDecessi_per+COVID+2019_ITA19ottobre.pdf

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Did you download the ISS document...it appears to have been taken down.

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I think the data came from this article in the newspaper "Il Tempo": https://www-iltempo-it.translate.goog/attualita/2021/10/21/news/rapporto-iss-morti-covid-malattie-patologie-come-influenza-pandemia-disastro-mortalita-bechis-29134543/?_x_tr_sl=it&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=nui,op

You can change the language to English on their website. On the same website, there is a string of articles on the ISS data and on Covid, vaccines, etc.

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Nov 3, 2021Liked by James Lyons-Weiler

The one article I checked said 130k down to 4K. Where does your bigger number come from?

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Kary Mullis, MD who developed the PCR test said 2 things about it: 1) It should NOT be used as a diagnostic tool and 2) If you go deep enough in it you can make it say anything you want it to. Portugal has not been using the PCR for at least a year. They quit using it because it produced "too many false positives." It is totally unreliable.

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James, Quite a bit of pushback on the veracity of your sources from folks where I posted this on FB and Twitter. Can you provide additional confirmation this is an actual report? Greg Maybury.

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Your article is misleading. The US CDC does report covid only death at about 6%. So it looks like Italy was just updating there numbers in the same way. You say "except the US CDC" which is not true. I am on your side but when you use this kind of misleading information to prove your point it does more harm then good and makes me doubt your other propositions.

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I am saying your statement is misleading and now I don't trust you.

Here is what you said:

The evidence is so overwhelming - and coming in from all sources (except the US CDC) that Italy has revised its estimated number of deaths from COVID-19 from over 130,000* to less than 4,000 - overnight.

They didn't revise the number of deaths they just changed the categories. To died of only covid and with covid and comorbeties or cofactors. It had nothing to do with them readjusting do to inaccurate PCR test like what you said. I am not defending their numbers or the PCR test. I believe like what you said the the high threshold cycles are not producing accurate results. I believe they are manipulating the numbers. But they didn't change the covid deaths but only changed how they categories them and that change had nothing to do with the PCR test being inaccurate. It seems clear you didn't represent the fact accurately and made it sound like they changed the death toll way down because they realized the PCR test was inaccurate.

If that isn't misleading then what is?

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Oh, so that's how it really looks. Intuitions correct based on observation and logic, and also now empirical evidence. Sad sanity. No wonder so many avoid it.

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Nah. PCR isn't needed to diagnose people with moderate covid (D-dimer, neutrophil count, etc.). The covid death numbers are inflated, but not by 97%.

Mild covid is still impossible to diagnose because of over-cycling and confounding by other ILIs.

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