Why Do Some People Still Fall Prey to the Persistent Myth that mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Reduce Transmission? Fear of stigma hacks their brains to believe the unvaccinated are "free riders".
There you go! I would be more tempted to believe him if he were again young, handsome, and sexy. My husband tells me he can't trust his doctors if they look sickly or out of shape.
it's thanks to Tyson and his gang that i nowadays view my atheism as a failure and a handicap and that i hope my kids will Believe. i *despise* Tyson and his kind.
Thanks for this. Tyson also made a complete and total ass of himself on Bill Maher a few weeks back. He refuses to listen to data or science on the vaccine, and constantly defaults to the BS positions you have outlined. It led me to post on his Facebook page that he would be better off just focusing on physics instead of medicine because he is showing how untrained and ignorant he really is.
But do you think he has kept up to date in physics? I guess it doesn't matter so much since he's not working on the nuclear bomb and is just focusing on theoretical physics. So, theoretically, we could consider him a physicist. ---I'm still kind of doubtful. Why don't we have him focusing on witchcraft instead? He's clearly preparing a witch hunt against the unvaccinated.
No I know almost nothing about wiccans. I believe that denouncing the unvaccinated is similar to the witch hunts that were experienced centuries ago. In times of economic deprivation and suffering, often people in authority will start to blame a subset of the population and believe that these people either knowingly or unknowingly are responsible for the damage. There are areas in Africa, for example, where people are constantly battling witches and feeling persecuted. We can select some other obviously unscientific "discipline" that might uncritically accept him.
Tyson has been a shill for Bill Gates for over a decade using science status to push false claims about gmo foods in the same way he peddles these deadly jabs. It's the press release IPO version with a veneer of science like the updated version of doctors marketing cigarettes for big tobacco in the era before these toxic profiteers fully expanded into food and drugs.
Tyson is like a bad chinese knockoff of Carl Sagan, with one tenth the charm, integrity and wit [ not to mention: lyrical sense ]. One gets the queasy feeling that someone, somewhere, is being shortchanged, abused and/or exploited, in springing this pedantic fraud onto the public.
This is standard for those still parroting the narrative. The same talking points from May 2020 and zero acknowledgement of anything that has happened since then. Amazing how people with stacks of degrees can be so obtuse.
No - it's a DIRECT correlation, your LAST observation.....CONDITIONS for COLLECTING such pithy pieces of parchment / CONDITIONAL acolades, NECESSITATE learned / institutional IGNORANCE; apparent scientific illiteracy.....
What you see in real time with Neil is a highly indoctrinated individual Brainwashed by the global cult who has been mind controlled to trigger on anything that attacks their narrative and control.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an absolute retard. Before he made this so publicly clear discussing about corona, I thought that he was just a mediocre "TV-physicist".
Further proof of the very low correlation between academic degrees and IQ.
One day he will argue against the existence of gravity itself. Because, ultimately, like the notion of gender fluidity, the woke “science” narrative will face honest academic challenges that will corner it with resultant embarrassment.
.....'gravity' though, has LONG been in DIRE need of contextualization; an otherwise-INARTICULATE term - I've REVISED its related one to 'graCAvitation', so as to better clarify a KEY process [of compensatory / constructive displacement - or, PERPETUAL vortextuality - for the purpose of reconciling otherwise-THREATENING-to-structural coherence, resonant informational effects] to our, 'existence' at LARGE.....
I guess you understand the gravity of our mainstream scientists spouting such nonsense and being considered smart. (Or at least they consider themselves smart)
He's a handy poster-boy for the relentless pressure in physics to appear more egalitarian. Most people want nothing to do with physics, especially women and minorities. The gender-squawking now in the physics trade journals is tiresome, likewise the endless focus on "race" in the field. Nothing is keeping women and blacks out of physics except for their own lack of desire for it. But take a flamboyant bozo like Tyson, put him in field where he's clearly in over his head, and that's supposed to fix things.
OUCH And I struggled so hard (almost 15 years) to complete my Ph.D. Oh well. My mom told me the reason I won't have friends was because I was smart. I find this comforting now that I'm 80 years old. Because when I'm all stupid with dementia, obviously I will be loved.
I saw this and like this podcast, but find it difficult to listen to NDT. He is what one would call a 'useful idiot', still complaint with 'the science' (scientism) and oblivious to the reality of the situation in its entirety, which means assessing risk/benefit in the face of ALL RISK. (or perhaps he knows the truth but cant speak of it bc he likes his job) Benefit of the doubt aside, vaccine science forgets the risk of death and injury ad nauseam (like tobacco science) so all he is doing is parroting this insanity. I find it alarming the narrative shifting us all to do what's best for others rather than what's best for self too. It's a concerning shift that rides along-side LGBTQ(AI) social justice propaganda that pits an us vs them victimhood onto society. This concerning shift to victimhood centers on the emotional and is the usual propagandists bent. Neil is literally peddling propaganda and it's all too noticeable to me now permeating every facet of media, just about. I'll do what is right for my body, not for someone else's thank you. And the idea melded into ppl's brains -that the narrative has been conveyed- from the beginning, "it's ok to sacrifice self for the common good". A healthy society balances common good with individual health/rights, not to sacrifice one for the other. This self-righteousness coming from many like NDT leaves a feudalism taste in my mouth.
Also viruses are part of life and no one should be blamed or feel guilty if someone gets sick from a virus. Humans didn't get his far by hiding from viruses. Let's blame (at least) those CREATING the viruses.
Vaccine science? Isn't that an oxymoron when it comes to Pfizer and Moderna? Don't equate vaccine science with Tyson's arguments. You will be falling prey to the myth of scientific consensus. I recommend Dr. Jack's course in vaccine math. Tyson doesn't forget the risk of death and injury. It's just that he considers ONLY the risk of death/injury from COVID. He ignores the risk from vaccine injury. I took a course a few years ago in Behavioral Economics. We were educated to consider "opportunity costs." For example, if you sink all your money into buying an expensive DVD player, you are foregoing the opportunity to spend your money on DVDs that you can play. Therefore, you end up with an expensive door stop and have to beg your friends to loan you DVDs and you can only play Peter Paul and Mary or Christmas Carols or music that you don't really like that much. This is a hard lesson for me to learn. Right now I am forgoing the opportunity to eat breakfast or lunch--in order to write long comments which makes me feel good. Maybe better than food would.!!
You miss my point. Vaccine science is like tobacco science....it's scientism, not science.
NDT like many other talking heads and those put in media, they are there to parrot the propaganda/further the narrative, doing otherwise they would lose their jobs and comfy life. He ignores vaccine injury and death to suit his needs regardless of the virus, but yes, even the covid 'vaccine' (and the narrative) whether he is doing it consciously, or due to cognitive dissonance. Otherwise you can't come to the conclusion he is conveying. This is where I get the term useful idiot; albeit not a great term. He literally says the vaccine will reduce your likelihood of dying. NDT also outright lies about the vaccine (or at least is ignoring the realities) in that it doesn't stop transmission.
Love Dr. Jack.....I'm an instructor for IPAK. Love all the courses he offers. It's great to learn (and teach) since knowledge IS power. The Herbalists Perspective is my most recent course coming up soon.
Yes, I recognized your name after I replied. I loved your interview with Dr. Jack on a Monday night science presentation. I signed up for your course after getting impressed with your knowledge. (And I previously lacked respect for herbs.) I bought your pain salve. It's terribly inexpensive, feels great, smells great--and really works!
Oh. I thought you were taking vaccine science seriously as science--which it is not! I still think Tyson thinks that he is being scientific. There is no way we can have separate sciences for each politically charged issue. In my mind science and vaccine science repel each other.! I think vaccine science is repellent. Also the fact that NDT got SO ANGRY suggests he really believes in his unscientific beliefs. He may be a useful idiot, but he would produce all these slurs on unvaccinated for free. (Well, maybe not. He is paid, after all, to produce videos.)
"useful idiots" would do it for free since they think it's reality. literally doing the bidding for the propagandists.
Neil is in a state of cognitive dissonance like many in his field. the idea they aren't safe doesn't make sense to them. "It wouldn't be on the market if it was unsafe". Trust of authority runs deep.
Coming up: "Neil deGrasse Tyson dies suddenly". A distinct possibility. ...Stranger inopportune [ relatively speaking ] ironies have happened in the Age of Pfizer. The universe's way of righting itself. Ha!
Well, if he dies, then he won't be able to repent and admit he was wrong. And maybe, as the CDC claimed earlier, it was just a coincidence. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc coincidence.
Every time I watch deGrasse he seems like an arrogant, rich, close-minded, self-congratulatory person who had a modicum of knowledge, but based on this, has a much higher estimation of what his intellectual abilities really are. I just turn the windbag off whenever he comes on
As he gets fatter, he can become even more of a windbag. Overweight people are frequently huffing and puffing as their lungs and heart cannot support their activity.
Note to arrogant de Grasse, from someone MUCH smarter than him: Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman’s justly famous quote:
“In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience, compare it directly with observation, to see if it works. If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is—if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. That is all there is to it.” (Richard Feynman, The Character of Physical Law [London: British Broadcasting Corporation, 1965], 4, emphasis added.)
I might add—and I’m positive Feynman would agree—that it doesn’t matter how many people agree with you, or whether they’re members of national academies of science. If your prediction disagrees with experiment, observation, experience, nature, it’s wrong. Period. Not bowing to consensus but systematic skepticism is the hallmark of true science.”
.....CONVERSELY, it's VITAL to STILL provide such PERHAPS-conflicting perspectives for a POSSIBLE time when they MIGHT be of GREATER value, with HINDSIGHT or CLARIFYING supplemental information - to COMPLETELY dismiss them under Feynman's directive, RATHER than just REFRAIN from their firmer institutional ESTABLISHMENT, is JUST as UNscientific.....
Do you believe in conservation of energy? Maybe we are just experiencing conservation of democracy? Because as our government becomes more and more authoritarian--even totalitarian--as we get ruled more and more by executive orders from the dictator (whoops, I meant our president)----then democracy has to move over into science so that we now establish scientific conclusions by voting. FDA, for instance, voted to authorize Covid vaccination for young children with no evidence to support it. This is a powerful sign of democracy at work!
I have never liked him....he always cuts-off people and is arrogant.....so not surprised....
He’s not looking so good these days, either . . .
There you go! I would be more tempted to believe him if he were again young, handsome, and sexy. My husband tells me he can't trust his doctors if they look sickly or out of shape.
Like Peter Hotez, Fauci’s potential successor.
I don't believe he has any published papers in his field either.
He's a logical disaster. Never got his popularity.
Cough..minorities in astophysics...cough even if they're morons...
it's thanks to Tyson and his gang that i nowadays view my atheism as a failure and a handicap and that i hope my kids will Believe. i *despise* Tyson and his kind.
Thanks for this. Tyson also made a complete and total ass of himself on Bill Maher a few weeks back. He refuses to listen to data or science on the vaccine, and constantly defaults to the BS positions you have outlined. It led me to post on his Facebook page that he would be better off just focusing on physics instead of medicine because he is showing how untrained and ignorant he really is.
I would even dismiss anything he says about physics. Don't buy tickets to his and Emily's events.
But do you think he has kept up to date in physics? I guess it doesn't matter so much since he's not working on the nuclear bomb and is just focusing on theoretical physics. So, theoretically, we could consider him a physicist. ---I'm still kind of doubtful. Why don't we have him focusing on witchcraft instead? He's clearly preparing a witch hunt against the unvaccinated.
He might be a physics evangelist of a sort. He claims expertise in astrophysics and cosmology. I doubt any better than Michio Kaku, though I haven't heard the latter opine about coronavirus or prototype countermeasures. (I was uninformed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Q8I3JjvHE ) Just, when I heard him on late night radio, his answers to physics questions sounded 50 years out of date, though I enjoyed his television show "Sliders". NB: I really should have taken a triple major with physics and pharmacy. Too bad I was a lazy, unambitious sort. Neil deGrasse Tyson really did hold paid speaking events at the Eccles Theater. https://live-at-the-eccles.com/events/neil-degrasse-tyson https://live-at-the-eccles.com/events/neil-degrasse-tyson-1 "Please note that all fans must present proof of COVID vaccination or a negative test to attend this show." And he's still at it! https://www.neildegrassetysontour.com/ "your personal astrophysicist" https://www.sltrib.com/artsliving/2017/02/21/neil-degrasse-tyson-goes-to-the-movies-in-salt-lake-city/ sure sounds a lot like "your local epidemiologist"!
Please leave the wiccans out of this. Did you mean Heinrich Kramer's and the Congregation of Faith's Inquisition?
No I know almost nothing about wiccans. I believe that denouncing the unvaccinated is similar to the witch hunts that were experienced centuries ago. In times of economic deprivation and suffering, often people in authority will start to blame a subset of the population and believe that these people either knowingly or unknowingly are responsible for the damage. There are areas in Africa, for example, where people are constantly battling witches and feeling persecuted. We can select some other obviously unscientific "discipline" that might uncritically accept him.
Tyson has been a shill for Bill Gates for over a decade using science status to push false claims about gmo foods in the same way he peddles these deadly jabs. It's the press release IPO version with a veneer of science like the updated version of doctors marketing cigarettes for big tobacco in the era before these toxic profiteers fully expanded into food and drugs.
Tyson is like a bad chinese knockoff of Carl Sagan, with one tenth the charm, integrity and wit [ not to mention: lyrical sense ]. One gets the queasy feeling that someone, somewhere, is being shortchanged, abused and/or exploited, in springing this pedantic fraud onto the public.
This is standard for those still parroting the narrative. The same talking points from May 2020 and zero acknowledgement of anything that has happened since then. Amazing how people with stacks of degrees can be so obtuse.
No - it's a DIRECT correlation, your LAST observation.....CONDITIONS for COLLECTING such pithy pieces of parchment / CONDITIONAL acolades, NECESSITATE learned / institutional IGNORANCE; apparent scientific illiteracy.....
They're stuck in a 2020 closed-loop logic and they don't want to get out.
The embarrassment of admitting that all of the mouth breathing science deniers were right is far too much to bare.
I know but that was simply crazy and unacceptable.
"Doooood, the TRIAAAALS!"
Lol.
"may 2020". good one.
i usually call it the "march 2020 mindset".
Well I was already freaking out and ready to riot in March 2020 but I’m special 😜
Its the same old leftist playbook in action. Make up another word, change a definition, create blame, label opponents. Predictable pattern.
What you see in real time with Neil is a highly indoctrinated individual Brainwashed by the global cult who has been mind controlled to trigger on anything that attacks their narrative and control.
He's been a paid performer from the start
I wish Bet-David had challenged him properly. Frustrating to watch him ignore the ludicrously illogical statements.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is an absolute retard. Before he made this so publicly clear discussing about corona, I thought that he was just a mediocre "TV-physicist".
Further proof of the very low correlation between academic degrees and IQ.
One day he will argue against the existence of gravity itself. Because, ultimately, like the notion of gender fluidity, the woke “science” narrative will face honest academic challenges that will corner it with resultant embarrassment.
See Tyson fly.
.....'gravity' though, has LONG been in DIRE need of contextualization; an otherwise-INARTICULATE term - I've REVISED its related one to 'graCAvitation', so as to better clarify a KEY process [of compensatory / constructive displacement - or, PERPETUAL vortextuality - for the purpose of reconciling otherwise-THREATENING-to-structural coherence, resonant informational effects] to our, 'existence' at LARGE.....
I guess you understand the gravity of our mainstream scientists spouting such nonsense and being considered smart. (Or at least they consider themselves smart)
.....very CLEVer, there ;P
He's a handy poster-boy for the relentless pressure in physics to appear more egalitarian. Most people want nothing to do with physics, especially women and minorities. The gender-squawking now in the physics trade journals is tiresome, likewise the endless focus on "race" in the field. Nothing is keeping women and blacks out of physics except for their own lack of desire for it. But take a flamboyant bozo like Tyson, put him in field where he's clearly in over his head, and that's supposed to fix things.
OUCH And I struggled so hard (almost 15 years) to complete my Ph.D. Oh well. My mom told me the reason I won't have friends was because I was smart. I find this comforting now that I'm 80 years old. Because when I'm all stupid with dementia, obviously I will be loved.
My main takeaway (other than your logic!), is how on God's green earth, could this guy, Tyson, be a scientist?
He is a real $cientist!
I saw this and like this podcast, but find it difficult to listen to NDT. He is what one would call a 'useful idiot', still complaint with 'the science' (scientism) and oblivious to the reality of the situation in its entirety, which means assessing risk/benefit in the face of ALL RISK. (or perhaps he knows the truth but cant speak of it bc he likes his job) Benefit of the doubt aside, vaccine science forgets the risk of death and injury ad nauseam (like tobacco science) so all he is doing is parroting this insanity. I find it alarming the narrative shifting us all to do what's best for others rather than what's best for self too. It's a concerning shift that rides along-side LGBTQ(AI) social justice propaganda that pits an us vs them victimhood onto society. This concerning shift to victimhood centers on the emotional and is the usual propagandists bent. Neil is literally peddling propaganda and it's all too noticeable to me now permeating every facet of media, just about. I'll do what is right for my body, not for someone else's thank you. And the idea melded into ppl's brains -that the narrative has been conveyed- from the beginning, "it's ok to sacrifice self for the common good". A healthy society balances common good with individual health/rights, not to sacrifice one for the other. This self-righteousness coming from many like NDT leaves a feudalism taste in my mouth.
Also viruses are part of life and no one should be blamed or feel guilty if someone gets sick from a virus. Humans didn't get his far by hiding from viruses. Let's blame (at least) those CREATING the viruses.
Vaccine science? Isn't that an oxymoron when it comes to Pfizer and Moderna? Don't equate vaccine science with Tyson's arguments. You will be falling prey to the myth of scientific consensus. I recommend Dr. Jack's course in vaccine math. Tyson doesn't forget the risk of death and injury. It's just that he considers ONLY the risk of death/injury from COVID. He ignores the risk from vaccine injury. I took a course a few years ago in Behavioral Economics. We were educated to consider "opportunity costs." For example, if you sink all your money into buying an expensive DVD player, you are foregoing the opportunity to spend your money on DVDs that you can play. Therefore, you end up with an expensive door stop and have to beg your friends to loan you DVDs and you can only play Peter Paul and Mary or Christmas Carols or music that you don't really like that much. This is a hard lesson for me to learn. Right now I am forgoing the opportunity to eat breakfast or lunch--in order to write long comments which makes me feel good. Maybe better than food would.!!
You miss my point. Vaccine science is like tobacco science....it's scientism, not science.
NDT like many other talking heads and those put in media, they are there to parrot the propaganda/further the narrative, doing otherwise they would lose their jobs and comfy life. He ignores vaccine injury and death to suit his needs regardless of the virus, but yes, even the covid 'vaccine' (and the narrative) whether he is doing it consciously, or due to cognitive dissonance. Otherwise you can't come to the conclusion he is conveying. This is where I get the term useful idiot; albeit not a great term. He literally says the vaccine will reduce your likelihood of dying. NDT also outright lies about the vaccine (or at least is ignoring the realities) in that it doesn't stop transmission.
Love Dr. Jack.....I'm an instructor for IPAK. Love all the courses he offers. It's great to learn (and teach) since knowledge IS power. The Herbalists Perspective is my most recent course coming up soon.
Yes, I recognized your name after I replied. I loved your interview with Dr. Jack on a Monday night science presentation. I signed up for your course after getting impressed with your knowledge. (And I previously lacked respect for herbs.) I bought your pain salve. It's terribly inexpensive, feels great, smells great--and really works!
Great!! thank you Diane!!! xoxo
Oh. I thought you were taking vaccine science seriously as science--which it is not! I still think Tyson thinks that he is being scientific. There is no way we can have separate sciences for each politically charged issue. In my mind science and vaccine science repel each other.! I think vaccine science is repellent. Also the fact that NDT got SO ANGRY suggests he really believes in his unscientific beliefs. He may be a useful idiot, but he would produce all these slurs on unvaccinated for free. (Well, maybe not. He is paid, after all, to produce videos.)
"useful idiots" would do it for free since they think it's reality. literally doing the bidding for the propagandists.
Neil is in a state of cognitive dissonance like many in his field. the idea they aren't safe doesn't make sense to them. "It wouldn't be on the market if it was unsafe". Trust of authority runs deep.
Im in Chinada . NDT... NDP.. its the same crap.
Coming up: "Neil deGrasse Tyson dies suddenly". A distinct possibility. ...Stranger inopportune [ relatively speaking ] ironies have happened in the Age of Pfizer. The universe's way of righting itself. Ha!
Well, if he dies, then he won't be able to repent and admit he was wrong. And maybe, as the CDC claimed earlier, it was just a coincidence. Post hoc ergo prompter hoc coincidence.
Below: Are you having a coincidence?
https://twitter.com/covid_parent/status/1601994186739388418?s=20&t=MX65j3qRRKoqBOFngTBbqQ
https://twitter.com/DavidWolfe/status/1612994071362146309?s=20&t=bMYK3o_g6_nSvcN3deXtcg
Going from Conspiracy Theorist to Coincidence Theorist has been , to say the least, refreshing!
Well it was just a coincidence that you got reclassified. Better watch out that you toe the line.
Just shared with Neil's twitter handle @neiltyson
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Bravo, I would NEVER debate you, lol.
The guy is a clown. So many things wrong in one video.
Every time I watch deGrasse he seems like an arrogant, rich, close-minded, self-congratulatory person who had a modicum of knowledge, but based on this, has a much higher estimation of what his intellectual abilities really are. I just turn the windbag off whenever he comes on
As he gets fatter, he can become even more of a windbag. Overweight people are frequently huffing and puffing as their lungs and heart cannot support their activity.
Its awfully hard living and perpetuating a Big Lie. Huff puff, huff ,puff. Aaaawwwk! Suddenly!
Like Kalamity Harris describing geopolitics at grade 1 level, the limit of her cranial ability.
Note to arrogant de Grasse, from someone MUCH smarter than him: Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman’s justly famous quote:
“In general we look for a new law by the following process. First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right. Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience, compare it directly with observation, to see if it works. If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is—if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. That is all there is to it.” (Richard Feynman, The Character of Physical Law [London: British Broadcasting Corporation, 1965], 4, emphasis added.)
I might add—and I’m positive Feynman would agree—that it doesn’t matter how many people agree with you, or whether they’re members of national academies of science. If your prediction disagrees with experiment, observation, experience, nature, it’s wrong. Period. Not bowing to consensus but systematic skepticism is the hallmark of true science.”
.....CONVERSELY, it's VITAL to STILL provide such PERHAPS-conflicting perspectives for a POSSIBLE time when they MIGHT be of GREATER value, with HINDSIGHT or CLARIFYING supplemental information - to COMPLETELY dismiss them under Feynman's directive, RATHER than just REFRAIN from their firmer institutional ESTABLISHMENT, is JUST as UNscientific.....
Do you believe in conservation of energy? Maybe we are just experiencing conservation of democracy? Because as our government becomes more and more authoritarian--even totalitarian--as we get ruled more and more by executive orders from the dictator (whoops, I meant our president)----then democracy has to move over into science so that we now establish scientific conclusions by voting. FDA, for instance, voted to authorize Covid vaccination for young children with no evidence to support it. This is a powerful sign of democracy at work!
Great illustration of consensus replacing democracy. group think at play!