The rates from vaccines could be 100 times higher due to biased and opaque reporting. See how the vaccine program kills 20 and injures 1200 kids per year - just based on travel to the office alone.
Eventually justice will also mean accountability for the perpetrators. We are not there yet. The instigators were foolish and guilty of short-term thinking, because time will not dim what happened, it will bring increasing clarity. The MAHA paradigm shift is the tip of the iceberg. Looking back, the covid era still feels like a farfetched sci fi movie. It exposed a sinister side of human nature in everyone, that under normal circumstances is cloaked. It confirms a truth written about in the Gulag A. "The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either—but right through every human heart—and through all human hearts.” Watching that phenomenon play out in real time and not forgetting it, is life changing, reality bites. We can use that knowledge to our advantage.
"In a system where refusal carries consequences for schooling, medical access, or social standing, the mortality and morbidity imposed by the delivery mechanism cannot be treated as externalities."
You are one of the few that I have encountered, that has explicitly acknowledged such a consequential association in any realm.
Yes, it's a pertinent association with compulsory visits for injections, but this type of association is also a nontrivial cost factor across multiple domains.
Personally, don't think this argument holds water.
- URF for death is going to be far lower than overall URF.
- I'd bet 90% of car trips to the office would have happened anyway as vaccinatiosn are not the sole cause for going.
- I'd guess 2/3rds of the deaths are adults in the car, which means lower loss of life years than children deaths.
But maybe I'm just misunderstanding something.
I would however question where the original 100x URF figure comes from. Does it's estimation make some assumption about AE's happening only in an acute period after exposure? I think vaccine harms tend to have very long tails.
These are debatable points. "I'd bet 90% of car trips to the office would have happened anyway as vaccinatiosn are not the sole cause for going." - Not really. Well-child visits are nearly ALWAYS about vaccination... and the number I used was exactly the # of office visits FOR vaccination. "2/3rd..." why? It's usually 1 parent and 1, 2 or 3 kids... 100x URF: https://digital.ahrq.gov/ahrq-funded-projects/electronic-support-public-health-vaccine-adverse-event-reporting-system Thanks for commenting drop by again anytime!
Under reporting is something absolutely necessary to examine, but I think folding in automobile traffic deaths on the way to the doctor is actually not helpful. This is not to say it isn’t an actual thing, but it gives an easy target and fodder to those that would like to hand waive away vaccine-induced harm and mortality. This doesn’t come across as a fruitful accessory to the primary issue, imo.
And, still. No one yet is indicted. No Nuremberg 2.0 in sight!
Eventually justice will also mean accountability for the perpetrators. We are not there yet. The instigators were foolish and guilty of short-term thinking, because time will not dim what happened, it will bring increasing clarity. The MAHA paradigm shift is the tip of the iceberg. Looking back, the covid era still feels like a farfetched sci fi movie. It exposed a sinister side of human nature in everyone, that under normal circumstances is cloaked. It confirms a truth written about in the Gulag A. "The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either—but right through every human heart—and through all human hearts.” Watching that phenomenon play out in real time and not forgetting it, is life changing, reality bites. We can use that knowledge to our advantage.
"In a system where refusal carries consequences for schooling, medical access, or social standing, the mortality and morbidity imposed by the delivery mechanism cannot be treated as externalities."
You are one of the few that I have encountered, that has explicitly acknowledged such a consequential association in any realm.
Yes, it's a pertinent association with compulsory visits for injections, but this type of association is also a nontrivial cost factor across multiple domains.
Does this account for the fact that atherosclerosis is vaccine-induced autoimmunity?
Personally, don't think this argument holds water.
- URF for death is going to be far lower than overall URF.
- I'd bet 90% of car trips to the office would have happened anyway as vaccinatiosn are not the sole cause for going.
- I'd guess 2/3rds of the deaths are adults in the car, which means lower loss of life years than children deaths.
But maybe I'm just misunderstanding something.
I would however question where the original 100x URF figure comes from. Does it's estimation make some assumption about AE's happening only in an acute period after exposure? I think vaccine harms tend to have very long tails.
These are debatable points. "I'd bet 90% of car trips to the office would have happened anyway as vaccinatiosn are not the sole cause for going." - Not really. Well-child visits are nearly ALWAYS about vaccination... and the number I used was exactly the # of office visits FOR vaccination. "2/3rd..." why? It's usually 1 parent and 1, 2 or 3 kids... 100x URF: https://digital.ahrq.gov/ahrq-funded-projects/electronic-support-public-health-vaccine-adverse-event-reporting-system Thanks for commenting drop by again anytime!
Under reporting is something absolutely necessary to examine, but I think folding in automobile traffic deaths on the way to the doctor is actually not helpful. This is not to say it isn’t an actual thing, but it gives an easy target and fodder to those that would like to hand waive away vaccine-induced harm and mortality. This doesn’t come across as a fruitful accessory to the primary issue, imo.