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There are at least 25 mainstream studies by usually aggressive vaccination proponents that demonstrate that these products fail, have limited duration, prevent mothers delivering antibodies to infants and will in the long term cause as many problems as they solve - compromising human resistance to measles without remotely eliminating it.

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Please send that literature if you can, John!

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Here you go!

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Cherry, J. D., & Zahn, M. (2018). Clinical Characteristics of Measles in Previously Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Patients in California. Clinical Infectious Diseases: An Official Publication of the Infectious Diseases Society of America, 67(9), 1315–1319. https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciy286

Fiebelkorn, A. P., Coleman, L. A., Belongia, E. A., Freeman, S. K., York, D., Bi, D., ... Beeler, J. (2016). Measles Virus Neutralizing Antibody Response, Cell-Mediated Immunity, and Immunoglobulin G Antibody Avidity Before and After Receipt of a Third Dose of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine in Young Adults. The Journal of Infectious Diseases, 213(7), 1115–1123. https://doi.org/10.1093/infdis/jiv555

Gibney, K. B., Attwood, L. O., Nicholson, S., Tran, T., Druce, J., Healy, J., ... Cross, G. B. (2019). Emergence of attenuated measles illness among IgG positive/IgM negative measles cases, Victoria​, Australia 2008-2017. Clinical Infectious Diseases: An Official Publication of the Infectious Diseases Society of America. https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciz363

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Excellent, John.

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Brilliant, well done.

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The concept of "First, do harm" makes for a profitable model for the sickness industrial complex! Godless evil/ sick people deserve no better! A nation get's the "medicine" is deserves! [ouch!]

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This worm keeps turning . Thanks for info. Money makes people really behave shitty? I never trusted gov to know better but i didnt think they colluded w/ big pharma directly at our expense till covid

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Colluded? No some agency's Profit from the 5 billion in fruad fines/ Big Pharma's. Not to mention the multi million they spend on buying and Lobbying evil political dupes!

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I used to live in California and I can't tell you how many times I went to the state Capitol to protest because the state government was colluding with Big Pharma directly at our expense re: vaccines.

Pediatrician/legislator Richard Pan was the Vaccine Industry's earnest, obedient puppet and brought one bad vaccine bill after another to the Legislature. Unfortunately, the Legislature's Democratic super-majority regarded Dr. Pan as "Our Doctor" and their authority on anything related to vaccination.

At committee hearings, hundreds of parents would line the halls of the Capitol, each waiting for their 10-15 seconds at the microphone to protest a horrible bill. The California Medical Association lobbyist, in his impeccable super-expensive suit, would periodically walk by, scornfully looking at us parents and our kids like "What's this dirt doing on the floor of my Capitol Building?"

I have some sweet memories of those long days at the Capitol - like Joshua Coleman's army of 600 demonstrators, carrying beautifully designed educational signs, circling the Capitol grounds. But most of my memories are bitter and I'm still outraged at what the Vaccine Industry did to California parents and kids.

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Don't worry, I don't let anyone tell me I can't be outraged about what the Vaccine Industry does.

You know, I believe that each of us, after we die, goes through a "life review" and we have to face the consequences of our actions and see how other people suffered from what we did. I think Richard Pan is going to have a life review full of vaccine-injured children and their distraught parents.

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The usual pharma/government agencies' response to short term immunity is to give more shots/boosters. What's their approach around this problem of waning immunity to measles?

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You mean, Non FDA approved & tested/ experimental Nazi style Dr. Mengula examination, right?

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Indeed, well at least I didn't call them "vaccines".

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I think their approach has been (1) to delay the whistleblowers' legal case "ad infinitum" and (2) to get colleges and universities to require measles vaccine boosters (or vaccination-from-scratch for the previously unvaccinated) for their students. And (3) to their close their eyes tight to the possibility that what they've done makes the population vulnerable to an epidemic of "monster measles" if a highly virulent mutant comes along or is released as a bioweapon.

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Dr. Andrew Wakefield gave a brilliant presentation on measles and measles vaccination some years ago at Life University. I happened across it on youtube, and watched it several times over a period of a few years because it was so good, and there was so much to learn from it. At first it was easy to find...then harder...and the last couple of times I looked for it, it seemed to have disappeared completely. I hope it's available on Odyssey - or somewhere! If anyone reading this knows where to find it, please post a comment with a link.

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That's interesting. Could you be more specific? "Life University" what year do you think?

I don't have that video in his collection...though he has recently presented information on measles. Do you have the original link that maybe has been "deleted"? If so post the link, there may be an archive of it.

https://totalityofevidence.com/dr-andrew-wakefield/

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Give me a couple of days. Somewhere in my enormous jumbled VACCINES file, I may have a link. I'm very busy right now but will try to take a look...

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Yes, Life University (I think it's in Marietta, GA) which offers chiropractic medicine degree. I'm guessing I came across the video on youtube in 2018 or 2019. I think (but not sure!) the presentation may have been in 2016.

Last night and this morning I went through my voluminous VACCINES file, and all my computer files on vaccines, and did not find a link to the video on youtube. One specific document I hoped would have a link didn't. Also did a quick search on Odysee and didn't find the video there. Did a DuckDuckGo search and among the first hundred or so things that came up, at least 95 were anti-Wakefield propaganda.

I suppose that if I could go back years in my youtube history, I could find a link...but I think I tried that once before, and the history didn't go back far enough.

My best suggestions if you want to find the video would be (1) Contact Andrew Wakefield. (2) Contact Life University.

Wakefield gave another presentation covering basically the same information, which was also on youtube. That one seems to have disappeared, too. (It wasn't as good as the Life University presentation, which was brilliant.)

BTW, in mid- to late-2004, on the internet, I saw a damning study of MMR vaccine and autism. Unfortunately this was another time when I failed to write down a link or misplaced it. I have since spent probably 8-10 hours searching for that study, and haven't been able to find it. Like the Wakefield Life University video, it appears to have been "black-holed."

But I remember quite clearly what the study report said. The researchers assessed 50 toddlers before and after they received the MMR-II vaccine at approximately 18 months of age. All 50 toddlers were normally developing according to their developmental milestones, when assessed pre-MMR-II vaccination. Twenty-five of them had no previous history or diagnosis of digestive disorder/disease. None of these toddlers regressed into autism following their MMR-II vaccination. Twenty-five of the toddlers had previous diagnosis of digestive trouble or symptoms suggesting digestive problems. Twenty-three of these toddlers (92%) regressed into autism within 4 weeks after MMR-II vaccination.

Is this a study you're aware of? Do you have a link for it? If not, this would be another thing to ask Andrew Wakefield about . . .

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Thanks for your informative response and trying to find the link, it would have been nice to add it to Dr Wakefield's page. Sorry but I too am time poor.

I'm not aware of the toddler study. Interesting, if I'm reading this correctly, that 92% of the children that has a digestive issue (25 out of 50) regressed into autism after their 2nd MMR shot. Alarming.

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To clarify, this would have been after the toddlers' first MMR-II (aka MMRII) vaccination. MMR-I is a term now used for the first MMR vaccine, which was produced on animal cell lines. MMR-II is a term for the later (and current) MMR vaccine, which was produced on human fetal cell lines; MMR-II was approved by the FDA in 1979.

Theresa Deisher et al. did change point analysis of autism prevalence in the U.S. and three other countries. To quote from the abstract of their research report: "Autistic disorder change points years are coincident with introduction of vaccines manufactured using human fetal cell lines, containing fetal and retroviral contaminants, into childhood vaccine regimens." Here's a link to the research report:

https://soundchoice.org/impact-environmental-factors-prevalence-autistic-disorder-after-1979/

Deisher said in an interview some years ago that if you compare a group of children vaccinated with MMR-II to a group of children not vaccinated with MMR-II but vaccinated with other human fetal cell line vaccines (e.g. Varicella or HepA vaccines), you won't see a difference in the autism rates between the two groups. The autism-vulnerable children in the non-MMR-II group will be triggered into autism by the other human fetal cell line vaccine(s) they receive.

Now back to our original topic of Dr. Wakefield's video on measles etc. I was able to remember the title of the presentation that Dr. Wakefield gave that was not quite as good as the Life University presentation but covered the same material: "Man, Measles, and Make-Believe." And I was able to find this video on the web, even though it appears that youtube has deleted it; here is a link:

https://oye.news/news/health/vaccines/man-measles-and-make-believe-andrew-wakefield/

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It looks like lots of people are interested Dr. Wakefield's brilliant presentation! I still can't find it on the web (I'll keep trying), but I was able to remember the title of a presentation that Dr. Wakefield gave that covered the same material (though it wasn't as brilliant in delivery): "Man, Measles, and Make-Believe." He presented this at AutismOne in 2019. And I was able to find this video on the web, even though it appears that youtube has deleted it; here is a link:

https://oye.news/news/health/vaccines/man-measles-and-make-believe-andrew-wakefield/

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Who would expect health and safety from an evil sinfull, 5 billion in fruad fines/ Big Pharma's! One should know that, "Death, is the wages of sin." i.e. why pharma's medicine IS, is the leading cause of death in the USA, according to Dr. Null's well documented book, Death by Medicine.

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The level of antibodies generated by a vaccine is hardly conclusive proof of any benefit whatsoever. The antibodies might be effective in killing AND safely disposing of the virus; or the antibodies might enhance the propagation of the virus in the infected organism; or the antibodies might attack the organism's own cells (autoimmune disease); or the antibodies (most often) will latch onto the virus without killing it but in doing so occupy the "keyhole" epitope that would otherwise be latched by components of the organism's innate immunity, which most likely would then kill and safely dispose of the virus.

So this idea of "Wow! Look at all the antibodies the vaccine generates!" is patent nonsense. It's unlikely, but possible, that those who parade this nonsense are in fact this ignorant of how immunity and viruses work. More likely, they understand it's nonsense, but it sounds good to the sheep... like the N-woman from the Virgin Islands who somehow is entitled to be in the House of Representatives and who insists that citizens of OUR country must not be allowed to hear information and opinions of those (RFK Jr.) who disagree with her profoundly ignorant and stupid beliefs.

Whether just stupid or blatantly evil, these people cause so much harm to innocent humanity that they must be eradicated.

NEVER FORGET!

NEVER FORGIVE!

NEVER AGAIN!

LOCK AND LOAD...

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James, you rock! Thanks for all you do. Very informative!

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James, you rock! Thanks for all you do. Very informative!

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Gee.... where is not only Joseph Mengele, but Dr. Karl Brandt, or Dr. Shiro Ishii of Unit 731 when Fauci needs them!

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👍🏽👍👍🏿

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The Nirvana Fallacy of a world without measles is a great descriptor. Wow, what an amazing amount of packed, helpful science information. We really do live in a brainwashed world about vaccines. The US is probably holds the most propagandized beliefs about vaccines in the first world.

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I'm surprised this didn't explicitly mention Mickey Mouse' spread of measles at Disneyland. (Perhaps in references.) It was vaccine strain! Though "Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences (R. J. McNall, unpublished data) - 37.6%"

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The gaslighting continues unabated.

DR. GASLIGHT. A doctor causes his patient to question her own sanity. Listen to Turfseer’s hit song. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/dr-gaslight

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I learned years ago that the news stories about measles outbreaks usually appear in January and are written by Pharma. So in January 2020 I was looking for them, only to find the stories about COVID. I knew at that time that COVID was a fraud. And that attitude was only reinforced by the decree by the CDC that there is nothing to do to prevent COVID, just wait for the vaccine. Sure.

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je veux me désaboner

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Keeping the virus dogma alive with RFK Jr. :(

If RFK Jr. really believes in telling the truth "no matter the cost", it's time to come clean re "germs"

https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/if-rfk-jr-really-believes-in-telling

David Martin has clearly admitted virology is nonsense.

Clarifying the Viral Narratives with David Martin, PhD & Alec Zeck:

https://unite.live/the-way-forward/the-way-forward/19-jul-12-00-clarifying-the-viral-narratives-with-david-martin-phd-alec-zeck?video_id=936

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