Gloss over? Really? You've ignored how I called the "go home until you need emergency care" "Standard of Care" your idiot colleagues cooked up turned people truly infected a/SCV2 made them human incubators for virus and variants. Pay attention, Hickie, you might actually learn something some day soon!
Whine, whine, whine, all day. Just get in touch with reality. You'll be ok. There's a change coming, and you idiots keep making the vaccine risk-aware crowd larger and larger w/your vaccine risk, injury and death denialism. More causalities = more vaccine risk awareness. You're all too stupid to learn to listen to the wisdom to actually manage risk instead of merely managing risk perception. The reason why you're here and you constantly harangue me is because you know this is the truth. It bothers you. Your hero status is at risk. You can't have that. All I know is the inevitable future of change will be rather upsetting to you, and I'm afraid there's nothing you can do to stop it from coming.
Hey, Dr Hickie -- why won't you answer my question? You claimed yesterday that you "protect child[ren] and infants (and the public) from deadly diseases" by all the jabs you give them. Well, how many of the mRNA Covid "vaccines" did you get, and have you taken all the recommended "boosters," too? You know, to protect your patients from deadly diseases such as Covid? Did you get the bivalent one, too?
Aren't you willing to put your money where your mouth is and show us that you practice what you preach? Why not proudly declare all the mRNA Covid jabs you've received?
Sorry to bother you again, but am I getting this right?
Your claim is SARS-CoV-2 would NOT have continued to evolve in all those people if there hadn't been outspoken critics or "disease-loving anti-vax assholes" like JLW? I suppose you mean that there would have been a higher uptake by a couple of percentage points and THAT would have made all the difference?
They ARE NOT VACCINES!!!!! Quit playing their evil game!!! They’re bioweapons made to kill millions of people worldwide!!! As Dr Zelenko repeatedly said, they’re poisonous death shots meant to carry out a genocidal agenda throughout the world!!! Dr Zelenko was a man of high integrity and a true love for God, who loved all humans and who worked diligently to save lives! He also was a man to speak truthfully! After all I’ve discovered about these death shots, I completely agree!!! When you continue to call these death shots ‘vaccines’ you’re either playing into the evil cabal’s hands or you are part of the evil cabal! But remember, God always wins against evil!!!
I can sort of understand the indignation over some of the best people we've got, like you or Bret Weinstein, using the term "vaccines" against their better knowledge. Not that classical vaccines deserve their religiously positive connotation of "one of medicine's greatest achievements" (even Malhotra seems to have felt he had to begin his study by saying his) necessarily.
But since the faith in COVID jabs has been almost entirely built on the association with the word "vaccines", whether or not to comply with that use of language does seem to me to be an important consideration.
I'm happy to report that before COVID-19 I was "caught" publicly stating that I thought vaccines were "filthy, nasty vials of toxic sludge" - based on data, of course, from Drs. Gatti & Montanari, whom IPAK flew from Italy before their labs were forcibly invaded, equipment seized, and they themselves became displaced for doing - gasp - Science on contaminants in vaccines. Also, aluminum is filth, and mercury, both are nasty. The bill of goods sold to the public on "Safe and Effective" is manifesting human pain and suffering due to preventable iatrogenic disease on scale never before seen. So, when I refer to vaccines, I'm using the legal classification made by FDA. Because labels have meaning and meaning matters. Semantics will not get us out of this mess. Reports that the vaccine can and does lead to integration into the genome of human tissue does not change the classification by the FDA. I don't have to pay homage to the moniker of the day, especially when the goal is clarity and reaching the people who want to read about the vaccines they have already taken. Thanks much, Momo!
And thank you. I fully agree with the "meaning matters" part, but do not share your emphasis on the FDA's legal classification. I can see how that works for you, but I'd rather stick with the most honest description of these products.
Not that I claim to have the answer here. Just "jabs" or "gene injections" work for me for brevity, I get the problem people have with "gene therapies" (since they're not therapy for an extant disease), but I could settle for "experimental genetic vaccines" if I could trust people know how different they are from classical vaccines. That this debate didn't happen is what bothers me, not that my or anyone else's moniker didn't make it.
I am in full agreement with clarity being the goal. My contention is that if there had been adequate resistance against the liberal use of the term "vaccines" (and I'm sure you know better than me just in how many ways these products are experimental), that would have helped a lot of people steer clear of them (just one example: you couldn't have called them anti-vaxxers). So precisely the lack of clarity of the language within the Overton window is one of the factors that contributed to coercing and harming people.
After 3 years of fear mongering and waste of trillions, we are still on the same track of discovering poisonous that will help the eugenics achieve their goal of killing 90% of us.
Posted earlier... When their renewable-energy pipe-dreams go up in smoke - wouldn't the elites need something with an 80% fatality rate to pacify angry populations (having already 'field tested' the two strains: one being the delivery mechanism & the other being the warhead...)? ;-)
Dr. Lyons-Weiler, you understand this topic far better than most of us, so I’d love to hear your best guess:
Some bloggers have been very alarmed by the 80% fatality rate, and others have pointed out that this death rate is in MICE, so we humans don’t need to be so concerned. What do you think - would the 80% rate in mice likely also be 80% in humans? Or 20%, 40%, or who knows? Any way to gauge HOW likely the results from mice translate into humans, or is these mRNA applications so new that it’ pure speculation?
Yes, the BU people tried to use this argument as well. They left how that hACE2 means "humanized ACE2 receptor". To assume that it's safe could prove dangerously misleading. It would take exposures to humans to know lethality in humans. Let's hope we never know.
Would you say that this testing (on mice) is being done for the development of vaccines? That is what they do in these BSL3/4 labs, work to develop vaccines?
I think the real payload of the study is not the supposed lethality, etc. Rather, it is the normalization of this kind of dangerous tinkering. The reported results of the study are less important than understanding that the source of the research is a team of ‘respectable’ university professors, MDs, and young naive post docs, passing off reckless research under the guise of some twisted notion of ‘doing good’. Meanwhile, the DoD sits in the shadows, ready to claim the fruits of insanity.
Evil scientists funded by evil government with the total blessing and cover up of the evil media to produce deadly materials to genocide the stupid sheeple.
Gloss over? Really? You've ignored how I called the "go home until you need emergency care" "Standard of Care" your idiot colleagues cooked up turned people truly infected a/SCV2 made them human incubators for virus and variants. Pay attention, Hickie, you might actually learn something some day soon!
Whine, whine, whine, all day. Just get in touch with reality. You'll be ok. There's a change coming, and you idiots keep making the vaccine risk-aware crowd larger and larger w/your vaccine risk, injury and death denialism. More causalities = more vaccine risk awareness. You're all too stupid to learn to listen to the wisdom to actually manage risk instead of merely managing risk perception. The reason why you're here and you constantly harangue me is because you know this is the truth. It bothers you. Your hero status is at risk. You can't have that. All I know is the inevitable future of change will be rather upsetting to you, and I'm afraid there's nothing you can do to stop it from coming.
It's disappointing how both of you speak to one another.
Hey, Dr Hickie -- why won't you answer my question? You claimed yesterday that you "protect child[ren] and infants (and the public) from deadly diseases" by all the jabs you give them. Well, how many of the mRNA Covid "vaccines" did you get, and have you taken all the recommended "boosters," too? You know, to protect your patients from deadly diseases such as Covid? Did you get the bivalent one, too?
Aren't you willing to put your money where your mouth is and show us that you practice what you preach? Why not proudly declare all the mRNA Covid jabs you've received?
Sorry to bother you again, but am I getting this right?
Your claim is SARS-CoV-2 would NOT have continued to evolve in all those people if there hadn't been outspoken critics or "disease-loving anti-vax assholes" like JLW? I suppose you mean that there would have been a higher uptake by a couple of percentage points and THAT would have made all the difference?
I would love to see the literature on this!
.....just seems like there are MORE than enough OUTRAGES to go AROUND of late : (
They ARE NOT VACCINES!!!!! Quit playing their evil game!!! They’re bioweapons made to kill millions of people worldwide!!! As Dr Zelenko repeatedly said, they’re poisonous death shots meant to carry out a genocidal agenda throughout the world!!! Dr Zelenko was a man of high integrity and a true love for God, who loved all humans and who worked diligently to save lives! He also was a man to speak truthfully! After all I’ve discovered about these death shots, I completely agree!!! When you continue to call these death shots ‘vaccines’ you’re either playing into the evil cabal’s hands or you are part of the evil cabal! But remember, God always wins against evil!!!
Please stop trying to control my speech. You know what I mean.
Not sure she was trying to!
I can sort of understand the indignation over some of the best people we've got, like you or Bret Weinstein, using the term "vaccines" against their better knowledge. Not that classical vaccines deserve their religiously positive connotation of "one of medicine's greatest achievements" (even Malhotra seems to have felt he had to begin his study by saying his) necessarily.
But since the faith in COVID jabs has been almost entirely built on the association with the word "vaccines", whether or not to comply with that use of language does seem to me to be an important consideration.
Then again, I wouldn't bug you about it myself.
No, I know. But wasn't trying to, but she was.
I'm happy to report that before COVID-19 I was "caught" publicly stating that I thought vaccines were "filthy, nasty vials of toxic sludge" - based on data, of course, from Drs. Gatti & Montanari, whom IPAK flew from Italy before their labs were forcibly invaded, equipment seized, and they themselves became displaced for doing - gasp - Science on contaminants in vaccines. Also, aluminum is filth, and mercury, both are nasty. The bill of goods sold to the public on "Safe and Effective" is manifesting human pain and suffering due to preventable iatrogenic disease on scale never before seen. So, when I refer to vaccines, I'm using the legal classification made by FDA. Because labels have meaning and meaning matters. Semantics will not get us out of this mess. Reports that the vaccine can and does lead to integration into the genome of human tissue does not change the classification by the FDA. I don't have to pay homage to the moniker of the day, especially when the goal is clarity and reaching the people who want to read about the vaccines they have already taken. Thanks much, Momo!
And thank you. I fully agree with the "meaning matters" part, but do not share your emphasis on the FDA's legal classification. I can see how that works for you, but I'd rather stick with the most honest description of these products.
Not that I claim to have the answer here. Just "jabs" or "gene injections" work for me for brevity, I get the problem people have with "gene therapies" (since they're not therapy for an extant disease), but I could settle for "experimental genetic vaccines" if I could trust people know how different they are from classical vaccines. That this debate didn't happen is what bothers me, not that my or anyone else's moniker didn't make it.
I am in full agreement with clarity being the goal. My contention is that if there had been adequate resistance against the liberal use of the term "vaccines" (and I'm sure you know better than me just in how many ways these products are experimental), that would have helped a lot of people steer clear of them (just one example: you couldn't have called them anti-vaxxers). So precisely the lack of clarity of the language within the Overton window is one of the factors that contributed to coercing and harming people.
After 3 years of fear mongering and waste of trillions, we are still on the same track of discovering poisonous that will help the eugenics achieve their goal of killing 90% of us.
Posted earlier... When their renewable-energy pipe-dreams go up in smoke - wouldn't the elites need something with an 80% fatality rate to pacify angry populations (having already 'field tested' the two strains: one being the delivery mechanism & the other being the warhead...)? ;-)
i suppose what we went through was not enough ... got to go through some more and more dangerous paths. i suppose they know what they are doing.
Dr. Lyons-Weiler, you understand this topic far better than most of us, so I’d love to hear your best guess:
Some bloggers have been very alarmed by the 80% fatality rate, and others have pointed out that this death rate is in MICE, so we humans don’t need to be so concerned. What do you think - would the 80% rate in mice likely also be 80% in humans? Or 20%, 40%, or who knows? Any way to gauge HOW likely the results from mice translate into humans, or is these mRNA applications so new that it’ pure speculation?
Yes, the BU people tried to use this argument as well. They left how that hACE2 means "humanized ACE2 receptor". To assume that it's safe could prove dangerously misleading. It would take exposures to humans to know lethality in humans. Let's hope we never know.
Would you say that this testing (on mice) is being done for the development of vaccines? That is what they do in these BSL3/4 labs, work to develop vaccines?
Mice, rats, ferrets, monkeys
In order to develop vaccines?
You mean let’s hope nothing “escapes” from the BU Lab. The world is watching and waiting.
Please take the time to read Mathew Crawford's piece yesterday, as well as its Comment thread. Many Virologists believe that Omicron is not an "escape variant" at all, so let us not use this terminology. https://open.substack.com/pub/roundingtheearth/p/a-biological-warfare-threat-please?r=eohbw&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
So, for unvaccinated who have had a recent covid infection, the risks from Omicron-S is what? This is scary when think of my vaxed family as well.
Depends on age and co-morbid conditions. Here's an overview
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01887-z
Thanks!
Oops, sorry, didn't see the "-S" after "Omicron".
No one knows. But the BU people claim to know it's not as lethal as Wuhan-1, but without data.
Not very good work, but EXCELLENT. A plandemic wasn't good enough for these people...
https://twitter.com/NaybobNattering/status/1582417946734784514
With far fewer people taking boosters now, what are the implications about escape mutants and future variants?
I think the real payload of the study is not the supposed lethality, etc. Rather, it is the normalization of this kind of dangerous tinkering. The reported results of the study are less important than understanding that the source of the research is a team of ‘respectable’ university professors, MDs, and young naive post docs, passing off reckless research under the guise of some twisted notion of ‘doing good’. Meanwhile, the DoD sits in the shadows, ready to claim the fruits of insanity.
Evil scientists funded by evil government with the total blessing and cover up of the evil media to produce deadly materials to genocide the stupid sheeple.