We got through COVID w/out workplace mandate, and I worked hard - every day - to make sure Popular Rationalists knew what was coming, and how to think clearly about those mandates.
It's too bad you can't realize that you can get good info from, and share that info from, even people with whom you do not agree on every topic.
I don't know if there is a single person with whom I agree 100% on all facets of the "pandemic" issue, but I share things which I think others will find helpful and informative from a variety of sources.
You could even put a disclaimer on it if you wish: I don't agree with this author's stance on *topic x*, but I find this specific article to be informative.
Sorry this is beyond "not agree[ing] on every topic."
We're not talking as if the topic were gardening.
This is **THE CORE, FOUNDATIONAL ISSUE** which got us in to this mess.
Lyons-Weiler has been pushing this nonsense from the beginning. He's like Kevin McKernan, in that he talks so fast, you can't interject a question. And you can barely follow what he is saying. And this is kinda the point. To Baffle 'em with BS, as WC Fields used to say.
Lyons-Weiler's association with Bobby Kennedy and Cyber Bully Jeremy Hammond are very troubling. The intel I'm getting is the planning for the bullying of #TeamNoVirus is being coordinated by Lyons-Weiler and Hammond on a PRIVATE LISTSERV operated by CHD.
Huh.
This is all about SCIENCE.
or better, SCIENTISM (the prevailing Religious Paradigm).
You are either practicing GOOD SCIENCE/Good Logic, consistently, or you are not.
I see the most LOGICAL CONSISTENCY from Tom Cowan, Mark and Sam Bailey, Andy Kaufman, Christine Massey(!!!), Stefan Lanka, Kevin Corbett, Amandha Vollmer, Jon Rappoport, Eric Francis Coppolino, Tom Barnett, Dawn Lester & David Parker, Mike Stone, Katie Sugak...
THESE are the TRUE scientists,
and journalists
using Observation: EYES+EARS w/APPLIED REASON.
CHD made $7M in 2020, DURING LOCKDOWNS,
mostly by anonymous major donors.
This was an over 2x increase over 2019.
Bobby made a $90k *RAISE* in 2020.
Holy shit.
Christine Massey is penniless, and was homeless for several months.
SHE is doing the work to solve this thing, on a GLOBAL SCALE.
Bobby and Mary and CHD are promoting LIES, Germ Theory Propaganda, and they are WASTING TIME in the courts arguing over TRIVIAL MATTERS and FAILING TO CALL OUT THE CORE FRAUD.
I wonder of Bobby, Mary, CHD would, in the interest of transparency, OPEN THEIR BOOKS and tell us who is funding CHD. The Major Donors.
Over, say, $10,000.
I feel so sad for Bobby.
He's being confronted with the truth, '
and he responds by digging in to this untenable position.
I consider Bobby a friend.
I wish I could figure out a way to help resolve this.
I gave you a heart because your reply is heartfelt in my opinion. Thank you for listing all the true scientists/journalists whom you follow. Most of them are new to me, and I want to know as much as possible. I purchased a book "Virus Mania" recommended by Samantha Bailey on YouTube. This book had a thesis that disease could not flourish (if we could use that verb) unless the host had a weakness or terroir that could welcome the disease organisms. Do you know of this book? I very much admire Dr. Bailey. Unfortunately, her YouTube videos no longer pop up automatically, so I have lost touch.
I think the core foundational issue which got is into this mess is the desire of large corporations to become even larger, the desire to make huge profits at the expense of most of the public. The desire to control citizens as they do in China with digital currency. I like to examine treatments for Covid, stages of the disease, vaccine adverse events, etc.
But over and over, it seems our government just continues to publish the same claims that vaccines are safe and effective and goes ahead with plans to vaccinate everybody and promote vaccine mandates. I doubt they will care whether Covid is caused by a virus or Covid is the result of toxins. They will pursue their agenda no matter what.
How would you advise we solve this thing? If we all were to agree that there is no virus would the government then declare the pandemic over? Our U.S. senate recently voted to declare the pandemic over and void the emergency. Biden vetoed it. That means we must continue vaccinating.
If we agree there is no virus, will that mean we would stop vaccinating?
You wish to figure out a way to help resolve this. Did you mean resolve your disagreement with Bobby over whether a virus exists? What I want to resolve is the threat of a digital currency which will mean the U.S. becomes a totalitarian society, and I will lose access to my bank account since I am unvaccinated.
If this happens I suppose I will either starve to death or die/suffer from a vaccine adverse reaction. You know now that Chinese people are protesting against Xi CCP total control. I listened to an interview that predicts Xi will maintain control and suppress all dissent. This is my core fear about the future which may now be coming to the U.S. I will join hands with anyone who can fight against this future. I don't care if they say the moon is made of green cheese.
I'm very conflict averse. Could we settle the conflict between viruses exist vs. viruses don't exist by treating them like light which could be either a wave or a particle? By Existing do we mean that viruses must ALWAYS cause disease? So NOT EXISTING means there are virus proteins--but because not everyone succumbs to them means they might as well not exist? I remember a biologist in the late 1960's arguing that all disease is genetic--because if we weren't human we couldn't get that infection. On the other hand he argued that all disease is environmental because you could avoid infection if you had low toxicity good nutrition low stress, long telemeres, etc. He concluded you need both. They were inescapably intertwined
Why don't you make a distinction and share stuff that doesn't attack #NoVirus leaders and doesn't push Fake Viruses and Fake Diseases? Do you dislike ALL of James Lyons-Weiler? I've been taking his courses, and his instruction is excellent. I don't think he talks too fast.
Are you following him? Are you hoping he will repent and realize viruses are not the problem?
My concern is that if all the unvaccinated start squabbling among ourselves we will not be able to marshal dissent to oppose global digital currency which may well end up with all of us locked up in our domiciles (or homeless) and without access to our banking accounts whether or not we believe in viruses. Dr. Jack is making a big effort to bring awareness to the dangers of vaccines. I want to help him.
I believe these mRNA vaccines are dangerous whether or not a virus exists.
Fine. Take ANY virology course, learn sequence-based bioinformatics, and explain the sequence data produced by independent labs - how it magically aligns with other Betacoronaviruses. Include sequence data from Dr. Sing Han Lee, Milford, CT. THEN you'll be ready to debate.
PS Show me where I have "attacked" those promulgating the myth that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist? Anyone who thinks that presenting evidence that it does exist is equivalent to "attacking" the "leaders" of that belief system is not practicing rational inquiry. Especially after being hounded and goaded to do so by people who follow that crew to show the evidence. Irrational, illogical, nonsensical.
Consider it done James! I’ve long been a fan of your intelligent, well informed measured approach. It lends much needed credibility towards the hope that we can save any remaining shreds of true science.
I'll share your stuff when you stop pushing Fake Viruses, Fake Diseases, and stop attacking the #NoVirus leaders.
It's too bad you can't realize that you can get good info from, and share that info from, even people with whom you do not agree on every topic.
I don't know if there is a single person with whom I agree 100% on all facets of the "pandemic" issue, but I share things which I think others will find helpful and informative from a variety of sources.
You could even put a disclaimer on it if you wish: I don't agree with this author's stance on *topic x*, but I find this specific article to be informative.
Sorry this is beyond "not agree[ing] on every topic."
We're not talking as if the topic were gardening.
This is **THE CORE, FOUNDATIONAL ISSUE** which got us in to this mess.
Lyons-Weiler has been pushing this nonsense from the beginning. He's like Kevin McKernan, in that he talks so fast, you can't interject a question. And you can barely follow what he is saying. And this is kinda the point. To Baffle 'em with BS, as WC Fields used to say.
Lyons-Weiler's association with Bobby Kennedy and Cyber Bully Jeremy Hammond are very troubling. The intel I'm getting is the planning for the bullying of #TeamNoVirus is being coordinated by Lyons-Weiler and Hammond on a PRIVATE LISTSERV operated by CHD.
Huh.
This is all about SCIENCE.
or better, SCIENTISM (the prevailing Religious Paradigm).
You are either practicing GOOD SCIENCE/Good Logic, consistently, or you are not.
I see the most LOGICAL CONSISTENCY from Tom Cowan, Mark and Sam Bailey, Andy Kaufman, Christine Massey(!!!), Stefan Lanka, Kevin Corbett, Amandha Vollmer, Jon Rappoport, Eric Francis Coppolino, Tom Barnett, Dawn Lester & David Parker, Mike Stone, Katie Sugak...
THESE are the TRUE scientists,
and journalists
using Observation: EYES+EARS w/APPLIED REASON.
CHD made $7M in 2020, DURING LOCKDOWNS,
mostly by anonymous major donors.
This was an over 2x increase over 2019.
Bobby made a $90k *RAISE* in 2020.
Holy shit.
Christine Massey is penniless, and was homeless for several months.
SHE is doing the work to solve this thing, on a GLOBAL SCALE.
Bobby and Mary and CHD are promoting LIES, Germ Theory Propaganda, and they are WASTING TIME in the courts arguing over TRIVIAL MATTERS and FAILING TO CALL OUT THE CORE FRAUD.
I wonder of Bobby, Mary, CHD would, in the interest of transparency, OPEN THEIR BOOKS and tell us who is funding CHD. The Major Donors.
Over, say, $10,000.
I feel so sad for Bobby.
He's being confronted with the truth, '
and he responds by digging in to this untenable position.
I consider Bobby a friend.
I wish I could figure out a way to help resolve this.
So Lyons-Weiler's work with Dr. Paul Thomas is worth nothing to you?
You won't share the vaccinated-unvaccinated study results because you don't agree with him about whether viruses exist or not?
I gave you a heart because your reply is heartfelt in my opinion. Thank you for listing all the true scientists/journalists whom you follow. Most of them are new to me, and I want to know as much as possible. I purchased a book "Virus Mania" recommended by Samantha Bailey on YouTube. This book had a thesis that disease could not flourish (if we could use that verb) unless the host had a weakness or terroir that could welcome the disease organisms. Do you know of this book? I very much admire Dr. Bailey. Unfortunately, her YouTube videos no longer pop up automatically, so I have lost touch.
I think the core foundational issue which got is into this mess is the desire of large corporations to become even larger, the desire to make huge profits at the expense of most of the public. The desire to control citizens as they do in China with digital currency. I like to examine treatments for Covid, stages of the disease, vaccine adverse events, etc.
But over and over, it seems our government just continues to publish the same claims that vaccines are safe and effective and goes ahead with plans to vaccinate everybody and promote vaccine mandates. I doubt they will care whether Covid is caused by a virus or Covid is the result of toxins. They will pursue their agenda no matter what.
How would you advise we solve this thing? If we all were to agree that there is no virus would the government then declare the pandemic over? Our U.S. senate recently voted to declare the pandemic over and void the emergency. Biden vetoed it. That means we must continue vaccinating.
If we agree there is no virus, will that mean we would stop vaccinating?
You wish to figure out a way to help resolve this. Did you mean resolve your disagreement with Bobby over whether a virus exists? What I want to resolve is the threat of a digital currency which will mean the U.S. becomes a totalitarian society, and I will lose access to my bank account since I am unvaccinated.
If this happens I suppose I will either starve to death or die/suffer from a vaccine adverse reaction. You know now that Chinese people are protesting against Xi CCP total control. I listened to an interview that predicts Xi will maintain control and suppress all dissent. This is my core fear about the future which may now be coming to the U.S. I will join hands with anyone who can fight against this future. I don't care if they say the moon is made of green cheese.
I'm very conflict averse. Could we settle the conflict between viruses exist vs. viruses don't exist by treating them like light which could be either a wave or a particle? By Existing do we mean that viruses must ALWAYS cause disease? So NOT EXISTING means there are virus proteins--but because not everyone succumbs to them means they might as well not exist? I remember a biologist in the late 1960's arguing that all disease is genetic--because if we weren't human we couldn't get that infection. On the other hand he argued that all disease is environmental because you could avoid infection if you had low toxicity good nutrition low stress, long telemeres, etc. He concluded you need both. They were inescapably intertwined
Why don't you make a distinction and share stuff that doesn't attack #NoVirus leaders and doesn't push Fake Viruses and Fake Diseases? Do you dislike ALL of James Lyons-Weiler? I've been taking his courses, and his instruction is excellent. I don't think he talks too fast.
Are you following him? Are you hoping he will repent and realize viruses are not the problem?
My concern is that if all the unvaccinated start squabbling among ourselves we will not be able to marshal dissent to oppose global digital currency which may well end up with all of us locked up in our domiciles (or homeless) and without access to our banking accounts whether or not we believe in viruses. Dr. Jack is making a big effort to bring awareness to the dangers of vaccines. I want to help him.
I believe these mRNA vaccines are dangerous whether or not a virus exists.
That's ok, Bill. I don't need anyone sharing my "stuff" if you can't see through the charade.
If Jessica Rose teaches a course on Virology @ IPAK-EDU, and you take that course, then come back and tell me viruses don't exist. Deal?
Oh, please don't make me endure that...
I've listened to a lot of Jessica Rose's talks. I know what she's about already.
The only charade I see is the charade of SARS-CoV-2 (and all of viroLIEgy).
I'm prepared to argue this today.
Fine. Take ANY virology course, learn sequence-based bioinformatics, and explain the sequence data produced by independent labs - how it magically aligns with other Betacoronaviruses. Include sequence data from Dr. Sing Han Lee, Milford, CT. THEN you'll be ready to debate.
PS Show me where I have "attacked" those promulgating the myth that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist? Anyone who thinks that presenting evidence that it does exist is equivalent to "attacking" the "leaders" of that belief system is not practicing rational inquiry. Especially after being hounded and goaded to do so by people who follow that crew to show the evidence. Irrational, illogical, nonsensical.
Consider it done James! I’ve long been a fan of your intelligent, well informed measured approach. It lends much needed credibility towards the hope that we can save any remaining shreds of true science.
I will share your work on Twitter more often. 👍
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