Again, there is a way to get around it, all a hospital needs is a "reasonable clinical or safety concern." Considering that one third of hospital patients suffer from AB-resistance infections and one in ten of those die of the acquired conditions, maybe, it is hospitals themselves that must be banned. :)
Thanks. Good news. Now - what about right to medication of choice, informed consent to be treated or not with particular medications or vaccinations? And where are we in NYC with right of unvaccinated health professionals to work? Are even self-employed sole practitioners’ offices still closed?
At least that movement had some semblance of love & music.
The discordant sounds of the antifa & blm & current push for genital mutilation of our kids, & the destruction of truly caring for the sick, elderly & dying - has no music - only hate & anger & dystopian authoritarianism.
Rationalism can handle only empirical and logical problems. The vast majority of problems are neither, so people use analogies... Existential needs overwrite perception, logic, emotions, and intuitions.
@James Lyon-Weiler: I put this comment on another thread but in case you don’t see it I’m putting it here too. There’s a new study in JAMA claiming that both COVID and all cause deaths were significantly lower in highly vaccinated states vs lower vaccinated states. I can see the author has a long list of conflicts (and study was funded by CDC) but could you do an analysis and tell us if the methodology makes sense and whether this study holds any water or if it’s typical CDC propaganda? https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2798990
Agreed. The working assumption with all such studies should be that the result was determined first, then the data were mined to fit. Absent proof that that is not the case, the study should be deemed complete bullshit.
I'll look at it as well (mostly because I'm pretty familiar with the head fakes typically used in these studies—for all their mendaciousness, the for-hire "scientists" sure are lazy fucks when it comes to finding creative ways to cheat, instead following the other cheaters like little brain-dead sheep). Anyway, FWIW . . .
(As a pretext, it would be unusual for such findings to occur randomly, as they would contradict past all-cause and COVID mortality rates for lockdown/non-lockdown states, as well as mortality rates correlated with vaccine injury, which implies another independent variable, which, if it existed, would have been latched onto by Big Pharma to 'prove' that vaccines aren't causing injury.)
"Absolutely not! I am full of vengeance. I am vengeful. It's not a time to say I'm sorry. It's a time to put these bastards in jail! I'm calling it 'the big kill'. It's the physicians, not just the politicians."
Every day, I pray to the imaginary gods, whoever they may be, to grant me my one, unwavering wish before I leave this mortal coil. And I want a front-row seat.
I do agree. I just have this “belief” (referred to as “faith”...that there is a just God who will at the final judgement ...judge fairly & righteously whether we mere mortals execute judiciously here on earth to these malfeasants). When I was 19 & in college & in my skepticism (without going into all the details of my own spiritual journey) this particular passage of which I had no knowledge among several others (Roman’s 8:38,39) was brought to me in a supernatural way & changed my heart & thinking - for which I shall be eternally grateful. We each are on our own journey and I appreciate any & all truths learned, shared, or which shed light along the way.
It's still way off. Departments of health should not even be dictating (or euphemistically "advising") who can visit, when, and for how long. If anything, they should only set the minimum baseline for accessibility with hospitals choosing how far they want to exceed that minimum. Instead, we have a dystopian world where the baseline is zero accessibility with hospital operations and safety determined at the whim of politically motivated apparatchiks.
That "reasonable...concern" clause still allows them to forbid entry to unjabbed or unmasked family members. I mean, their whole schtick is that it's perfectly reasonable to require jabs and masks of all family members - including little kids - who want to visit sick loved ones, or else deny them access, because jabs and masks ensure safety for staff and patients by preventing infection and transmission to the vulnerable sick and possibly dying patients who [illogically] don't have to be masked or jabbed to be admitted to hospital, right? So, despite acquiring durable broad immunity the natural way, to at least two dominant strains 23 months apart, I cannot visit my mother in her nursing home because I lack the jabs and can't physiologically tolerate the irritant material in disposable mask or its carcinogenic titanium nanoparticles. It's so "reasonable" to be cruel, harmful and ignorant when it comes to enforcing political hospital rules, doncha think?
Good point
And they have, for a long time:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/a-brief-history-of-compliance-training
Again, there is a way to get around it, all a hospital needs is a "reasonable clinical or safety concern." Considering that one third of hospital patients suffer from AB-resistance infections and one in ten of those die of the acquired conditions, maybe, it is hospitals themselves that must be banned. :)
Thanks for this notice.
May we stand ag this malfeasance in our “hell”thcare “systems” & advocate for the rights of the sick & dying.
Thanks. Good news. Now - what about right to medication of choice, informed consent to be treated or not with particular medications or vaccinations? And where are we in NYC with right of unvaccinated health professionals to work? Are even self-employed sole practitioners’ offices still closed?
At least that movement had some semblance of love & music.
The discordant sounds of the antifa & blm & current push for genital mutilation of our kids, & the destruction of truly caring for the sick, elderly & dying - has no music - only hate & anger & dystopian authoritarianism.
Moreover, "Rationalism" is a dubious concept.
Rationalism can handle only empirical and logical problems. The vast majority of problems are neither, so people use analogies... Existential needs overwrite perception, logic, emotions, and intuitions.
Yes, that's only rational. :)
@James Lyon-Weiler: I put this comment on another thread but in case you don’t see it I’m putting it here too. There’s a new study in JAMA claiming that both COVID and all cause deaths were significantly lower in highly vaccinated states vs lower vaccinated states. I can see the author has a long list of conflicts (and study was funded by CDC) but could you do an analysis and tell us if the methodology makes sense and whether this study holds any water or if it’s typical CDC propaganda? https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2798990
Me thinks the term “propaganda” in reference to the defiled CDC & what they fund & propagate may be too nice of a term ;)
Agreed. The working assumption with all such studies should be that the result was determined first, then the data were mined to fit. Absent proof that that is not the case, the study should be deemed complete bullshit.
I'll look at it as well (mostly because I'm pretty familiar with the head fakes typically used in these studies—for all their mendaciousness, the for-hire "scientists" sure are lazy fucks when it comes to finding creative ways to cheat, instead following the other cheaters like little brain-dead sheep). Anyway, FWIW . . .
(As a pretext, it would be unusual for such findings to occur randomly, as they would contradict past all-cause and COVID mortality rates for lockdown/non-lockdown states, as well as mortality rates correlated with vaccine injury, which implies another independent variable, which, if it existed, would have been latched onto by Big Pharma to 'prove' that vaccines aren't causing injury.)
Shall we forgive & forget?
"Absolutely not! I am full of vengeance. I am vengeful. It's not a time to say I'm sorry. It's a time to put these bastards in jail! I'm calling it 'the big kill'. It's the physicians, not just the politicians."
https://twitter.com/hugh_mankind/status/1593994830622953472?s=20
Every day, I pray to the imaginary gods, whoever they may be, to grant me my one, unwavering wish before I leave this mortal coil. And I want a front-row seat.
https://i0.wp.com/wyofile.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Bouchard-Meme.jpg?resize=267%2C300&ssl=1
I do agree. I just have this “belief” (referred to as “faith”...that there is a just God who will at the final judgement ...judge fairly & righteously whether we mere mortals execute judiciously here on earth to these malfeasants). When I was 19 & in college & in my skepticism (without going into all the details of my own spiritual journey) this particular passage of which I had no knowledge among several others (Roman’s 8:38,39) was brought to me in a supernatural way & changed my heart & thinking - for which I shall be eternally grateful. We each are on our own journey and I appreciate any & all truths learned, shared, or which shed light along the way.
Far too lenient!
What difference would it make to forgive or not to forgive?
Interesting to see this considering that NY supposedly intends to appeal the ruling curtailing their ability to quarantine people [sorry, paywalled]:
New York COVID-19 Quarantine Rules Unconstitutional and Illegal: Judge
https://www.theepochtimes.com/new-york-covid-19-quarantine-rules-unconstitutional-and-illegal-judge_4597334.html
Deft clicking on the X for stop loading page can evade the paywall.
For f*cks sake, this was still going on? Makes perfect sense with that mental patient governor I suppose.
No one should isolated from the ones they love, especially during a time of vulnerability - https://leemuller.substack.com/p/3-day-poll-to-prove-a-point
It's still way off. Departments of health should not even be dictating (or euphemistically "advising") who can visit, when, and for how long. If anything, they should only set the minimum baseline for accessibility with hospitals choosing how far they want to exceed that minimum. Instead, we have a dystopian world where the baseline is zero accessibility with hospital operations and safety determined at the whim of politically motivated apparatchiks.
This is feeling a lot like NYC is following the recent good guidance of the CCP. What a wonderful world.
Thanks NY Department of Health. Now, you can all drop dead and go to Hell.
Should never have been tolerated
That "reasonable...concern" clause still allows them to forbid entry to unjabbed or unmasked family members. I mean, their whole schtick is that it's perfectly reasonable to require jabs and masks of all family members - including little kids - who want to visit sick loved ones, or else deny them access, because jabs and masks ensure safety for staff and patients by preventing infection and transmission to the vulnerable sick and possibly dying patients who [illogically] don't have to be masked or jabbed to be admitted to hospital, right? So, despite acquiring durable broad immunity the natural way, to at least two dominant strains 23 months apart, I cannot visit my mother in her nursing home because I lack the jabs and can't physiologically tolerate the irritant material in disposable mask or its carcinogenic titanium nanoparticles. It's so "reasonable" to be cruel, harmful and ignorant when it comes to enforcing political hospital rules, doncha think?