"was associated with a reduced risk of overall mortality and pneumonia specific mortality. The effect was greater in children under the age of two years."
The premise that measles is a cause of morbidity and fighting that is knuckle-headed because it doesn't consider other possibilities such as the possibility that measles is a form of necessary stress for the body to expand its capability against inhospitable invaders is never even given the light of day. Yes a few children die of it but let's look at why - are they malnourished? Is it a form of "natural selection" (though I don't espouse Darwinism) but something of that nature where nature automatically cleans the gene pool? This and so much more is completely ignored in $cience today. And people are sicker than ever before, even within my own lifetime I can see that. However this makes me feel like superwoman compared to everyone around me who take pills and don't care what they put in or on their body. My body can take a beating every now and then without any adverse effects. This is what a healthy body is about. But everyone is so fixated on sickness that they never really understand that true health means you can get on with life, your body will support what you want to do with your life.
When I was a child in the 1950s, we all got measles, mumps and chicken pox. These were a normal part of childhood and not feared. We had “chicken pox parties,” to ensure kids got these when young. Parents and doctors observed that afterwards, kids had growth spurts and were more resilient.
As Denise Ward's comment indicates, with each normal childhood “disease,” our immune systems matured. These “diseases” were part of the process of development of our immune systems, and not a bad thing in those days. We acquired natural immunity for life and contributed to herd immunity. There was an episode of the Brady Bunch in which all 6 kids were happy to get measles and miss school and said, something like "if you have to get sick, at least it's only the measles." I'm guessing they had enough vitamin A. Later one of the actors who played the daughter dismissed that comment and told everyone to get vaccines.
Furthermore, I recently learned that viruses are part of our evolution. Zach Bush and others described how we have evolved for millennia with viruses and the “virome.” We continually adapt to our environment. When the environment changes enough, it throws off a virus. When we deal with the virus, our immune systems evolve to adapt to the changing environment. On and on …
Yea and several years ago a man from Somalia was jailed or somehow stopped from providing high dose vitamin A to his countrymen and children during an outbreak there when people were dying. Measles vaccine during outbreak was pushed instead which of course caused more death and disease. Haven’t read in a while but pretty sure on this and will find references if anyone interested.
That is interesting. Dr David Brownstein, before being largely banished from the internet for dispensing truth, in his protocols for fighting viral afflictions (covid), was recommending the oil based Vit A at 100,000 IU for 4 days, and then quit. Several other parts to his treatment protocol, but he claimed great success for decades using vitamins and a nebulizer (normal saline, H2O2, iodine)
This makes me wonder in general about all vaccines and their respective diseases. In theory the need for a given vaccine should be reassessed periodically as other potential treatments emerge but I doubt this type of reassessment is actually occurring for any of them. Seems once a vaccine is in place unless its dangerous there is no removing it even if the original risk isn't much of a risk anymore
A couple functional medicine doctors recommend taking vitamin A in the form of retinol at 50,000 IU for 2 to 3 days for covid as well as 5000 IU for women and 10,000 IU for men daily during flu season. I thought the 50,000 IU was a super high dose, but don't anymore given young children were given 200,000 IU for two days in this review paper. I wonder if FLCCC ever considered adding vitamin A to any of their protocols.
it is an old news. Dr. Alan Sommer studying mild vitamin a deficiency and night blindness in 70x in Indonesia found that one needs to supplement vitamin A to decrease measles mortality. He reformulated a cheap vitamin A tablet and got WHO to recommend it. Measles mortality dropped by millions. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2003/sommer-vita
the 'vitamin A protocol' (and different variations, some adding D) is well known and successful (when used appropriately of course!) in the biomedical treatment of ASD (& related disorders) community. many of our kids (& adults) have immune dysfunction of varying degrees (most notably PANS, PANDAS and other conditions where the body is 'stuck' in the over-production of antibodies, which cause so much damage, especially to the brain itself). I look at the protocol as 'slapping' the immune system, getting its attention and prompting it to right itself. (super simplistic explanation, I know. Dr Jack is rolling his eyes here but hey, I'm just a mom with a psychology degree, who's attempted to educate herself on this stuff over the years.)
Twenty-eight years ago there was a chicken pox outbreak in my kid's nursery school, so I was quite vigilant for what was coming, and as soon as I saw the first signs of poxiness, I gave him the contents of a beta-carotene capsule, in addition to those wonderful Hylands Vitamin C tablets that dissolved instantly in the mouth.
He had one bad feverish night and a couple of very very itchy days to follow, but very few actual pustules and a quick recovery.
The premise that measles is a cause of morbidity and fighting that is knuckle-headed because it doesn't consider other possibilities such as the possibility that measles is a form of necessary stress for the body to expand its capability against inhospitable invaders is never even given the light of day. Yes a few children die of it but let's look at why - are they malnourished? Is it a form of "natural selection" (though I don't espouse Darwinism) but something of that nature where nature automatically cleans the gene pool? This and so much more is completely ignored in $cience today. And people are sicker than ever before, even within my own lifetime I can see that. However this makes me feel like superwoman compared to everyone around me who take pills and don't care what they put in or on their body. My body can take a beating every now and then without any adverse effects. This is what a healthy body is about. But everyone is so fixated on sickness that they never really understand that true health means you can get on with life, your body will support what you want to do with your life.
Yes, I knew. Also learned from Neil Z Miller.
When I was a child in the 1950s, we all got measles, mumps and chicken pox. These were a normal part of childhood and not feared. We had “chicken pox parties,” to ensure kids got these when young. Parents and doctors observed that afterwards, kids had growth spurts and were more resilient.
As Denise Ward's comment indicates, with each normal childhood “disease,” our immune systems matured. These “diseases” were part of the process of development of our immune systems, and not a bad thing in those days. We acquired natural immunity for life and contributed to herd immunity. There was an episode of the Brady Bunch in which all 6 kids were happy to get measles and miss school and said, something like "if you have to get sick, at least it's only the measles." I'm guessing they had enough vitamin A. Later one of the actors who played the daughter dismissed that comment and told everyone to get vaccines.
Furthermore, I recently learned that viruses are part of our evolution. Zach Bush and others described how we have evolved for millennia with viruses and the “virome.” We continually adapt to our environment. When the environment changes enough, it throws off a virus. When we deal with the virus, our immune systems evolve to adapt to the changing environment. On and on …
Btw, the introduction of childhood vaccines has altered what we had, messing with our evolutionary biology. See https://coronawise.substack.com/p/new-diagnosis-artificially-induced
Yea and several years ago a man from Somalia was jailed or somehow stopped from providing high dose vitamin A to his countrymen and children during an outbreak there when people were dying. Measles vaccine during outbreak was pushed instead which of course caused more death and disease. Haven’t read in a while but pretty sure on this and will find references if anyone interested.
That is interesting. Dr David Brownstein, before being largely banished from the internet for dispensing truth, in his protocols for fighting viral afflictions (covid), was recommending the oil based Vit A at 100,000 IU for 4 days, and then quit. Several other parts to his treatment protocol, but he claimed great success for decades using vitamins and a nebulizer (normal saline, H2O2, iodine)
This makes me wonder in general about all vaccines and their respective diseases. In theory the need for a given vaccine should be reassessed periodically as other potential treatments emerge but I doubt this type of reassessment is actually occurring for any of them. Seems once a vaccine is in place unless its dangerous there is no removing it even if the original risk isn't much of a risk anymore
A couple functional medicine doctors recommend taking vitamin A in the form of retinol at 50,000 IU for 2 to 3 days for covid as well as 5000 IU for women and 10,000 IU for men daily during flu season. I thought the 50,000 IU was a super high dose, but don't anymore given young children were given 200,000 IU for two days in this review paper. I wonder if FLCCC ever considered adding vitamin A to any of their protocols.
That's a helluva lot of sweet potatoes, carrots, or liver.
What is the point to this article???
it is an old news. Dr. Alan Sommer studying mild vitamin a deficiency and night blindness in 70x in Indonesia found that one needs to supplement vitamin A to decrease measles mortality. He reformulated a cheap vitamin A tablet and got WHO to recommend it. Measles mortality dropped by millions. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2003/sommer-vita
"In general, toxicity is uncommon in intakes lower than 30 mg/day (25,000–30,000 IU/day) "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8157347/
It seems continued high doses are to be avoided
the 'vitamin A protocol' (and different variations, some adding D) is well known and successful (when used appropriately of course!) in the biomedical treatment of ASD (& related disorders) community. many of our kids (& adults) have immune dysfunction of varying degrees (most notably PANS, PANDAS and other conditions where the body is 'stuck' in the over-production of antibodies, which cause so much damage, especially to the brain itself). I look at the protocol as 'slapping' the immune system, getting its attention and prompting it to right itself. (super simplistic explanation, I know. Dr Jack is rolling his eyes here but hey, I'm just a mom with a psychology degree, who's attempted to educate herself on this stuff over the years.)
Well, funny thing.
Twenty-eight years ago there was a chicken pox outbreak in my kid's nursery school, so I was quite vigilant for what was coming, and as soon as I saw the first signs of poxiness, I gave him the contents of a beta-carotene capsule, in addition to those wonderful Hylands Vitamin C tablets that dissolved instantly in the mouth.
He had one bad feverish night and a couple of very very itchy days to follow, but very few actual pustules and a quick recovery.