"was associated with a reduced risk of overall mortality and pneumonia specific mortality. The effect was greater in children under the age of two years."
The premise that measles is a cause of morbidity and fighting that is knuckle-headed because it doesn't consider other possibilities such as the possibility that measles is a form of necessary stress for the body to expand its capability against inhospitable invaders is never even given the light of day. Yes a few children die of it but let's look at why - are they malnourished? Is it a form of "natural selection" (though I don't espouse Darwinism) but something of that nature where nature automatically cleans the gene pool? This and so much more is completely ignored in $cience today. And people are sicker than ever before, even within my own lifetime I can see that. However this makes me feel like superwoman compared to everyone around me who take pills and don't care what they put in or on their body. My body can take a beating every now and then without any adverse effects. This is what a healthy body is about. But everyone is so fixated on sickness that they never really understand that true health means you can get on with life, your body will support what you want to do with your life.
When I was a child in the 1950s, we all got measles, mumps and chicken pox. These were a normal part of childhood and not feared. We had “chicken pox parties,” to ensure kids got these when young. Parents and doctors observed that afterwards, kids had growth spurts and were more resilient.
As Denise Ward's comment indicates, with each normal childhood “disease,” our immune systems matured. These “diseases” were part of the process of development of our immune systems, and not a bad thing in those days. We acquired natural immunity for life and contributed to herd immunity. There was an episode of the Brady Bunch in which all 6 kids were happy to get measles and miss school and said, something like "if you have to get sick, at least it's only the measles." I'm guessing they had enough vitamin A. Later one of the actors who played the daughter dismissed that comment and told everyone to get vaccines.
Furthermore, I recently learned that viruses are part of our evolution. Zach Bush and others described how we have evolved for millennia with viruses and the “virome.” We continually adapt to our environment. When the environment changes enough, it throws off a virus. When we deal with the virus, our immune systems evolve to adapt to the changing environment. On and on …
I too was stunned to learn about how much of our ancient DNA is made up of snippets of viral genome. the very idea that the current 'goal' of eliminating viruses is INSANE, when looked at in this context!
Yea and several years ago a man from Somalia was jailed or somehow stopped from providing high dose vitamin A to his countrymen and children during an outbreak there when people were dying. Measles vaccine during outbreak was pushed instead which of course caused more death and disease. Haven’t read in a while but pretty sure on this and will find references if anyone interested.
Same thing happened with a measles outbreak in the Solomon Islands area of the South Pacific - a man who personally gave money and raised more money to purchase nutritional supplements and tried to distribute them and teach his fellow citizens nutritional interventions and how to dose zinc, vitamin A and C properly to treat measles and prevent complications such as pneumonia especially in the youngest babies and the malnourished, was arrested and imprisoned because the government was determined to keep up the propaganda that measles is always deadly, untreatable, and only preventable with jabs. The gov. forcibly mass-vaccinated using police powers and WHO personnel flown in (with MMR polyvalent live vaccines) every person on every island including naturally immune older adults, previously vaccinated children and adults, pregnant women, and unvaccinated babies too young to get MMR because they can die from live attenuated virus vaccines. The vitamins and educational pamphlets were destroyed and barely any reached the people who begged for them. Many children died right after getting these vaccines. But we never heard about that in MSM.
You’re correct and it wasn’t only Somalia. Island nations. They intentionally murdered people first by denying them vitamins and second by mandating the toxic injections. All intentional. I wonder how much was paid out to make that happen.
That is interesting. Dr David Brownstein, before being largely banished from the internet for dispensing truth, in his protocols for fighting viral afflictions (covid), was recommending the oil based Vit A at 100,000 IU for 4 days, and then quit. Several other parts to his treatment protocol, but he claimed great success for decades using vitamins and a nebulizer (normal saline, H2O2, iodine)
This makes me wonder in general about all vaccines and their respective diseases. In theory the need for a given vaccine should be reassessed periodically as other potential treatments emerge but I doubt this type of reassessment is actually occurring for any of them. Seems once a vaccine is in place unless its dangerous there is no removing it even if the original risk isn't much of a risk anymore
You should be looking at all vaccines. Everyone should have been all along. There is a reason the “anti vaxx” movement was born when the toxins were first used, even the scratch type way back when. Pharma and the government will never willingly give up the cash cow. They all make too much money off them AND they’ve always been a wonderful eugenics tool, not to mention, they keep the machine operating w the medical mafia.
A couple functional medicine doctors recommend taking vitamin A in the form of retinol at 50,000 IU for 2 to 3 days for covid as well as 5000 IU for women and 10,000 IU for men daily during flu season. I thought the 50,000 IU was a super high dose, but don't anymore given young children were given 200,000 IU for two days in this review paper. I wonder if FLCCC ever considered adding vitamin A to any of their protocols.
the idea that vitamins are somehow 'toxic' is one that is pervasive in the mainstream medical education. the dogma is drummed into people and so hard to get past. it all goes back to the Rockefeller bull**** that started the pharma-only model of medical treatment. but really, 50k iu is NOT a massive dose when only given for 2 days. the protocol I have followed (and its ONLY to be done ONCE every 3 or 4 months. and I would always recommend it being done with the help of a knowledgeable practitioner) is 300k iu, with an additional 200k iu of D. I have personally witnessed it WORKING, several times.
If, as a general rule, society, including kids, actually ate those things AND they were ruined w toxic pesticides and herbicides like they are today, which makes them nutrient deficient, along w over farming the land commercially, people probably wouldn’t need doses that high, but since that’s not the case...
I appreciate that perspective. Having learned much more about permaculture and developing interconnected farming practices, I agree that how the majorities of farms and ranches grow and produce are not conducive to nutritious and healthy habits but instead generate lots of chronic, debilitating drags throughout society.
But the flipside of this does mean that many people won't have the opportunities to eat healthy and feed appropriately, because the cultivation and preservation of those farming techniques and lifestyles won't sustain the large but unhealthy populations synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and bioengineered organisms currently do. And not without the distribution systems currently in place arranged around the world.
That is, unless the people themselves opt to move out of the suburbs, the projects, the city blocks, and into smaller communes and clusters where they spend the majority of their time working at farming, growing, harvesting, preparing, canning, without electricity, without easy amusement, without the drama of dissipation and drugs. Difficult sell, right?
Many people carry certain genetics that reduce or almost nullify their ability to convert beta-carotene from veggies into the active vitA the body needs, therefore only animal sources will work for them fyi
it is an old news. Dr. Alan Sommer studying mild vitamin a deficiency and night blindness in 70x in Indonesia found that one needs to supplement vitamin A to decrease measles mortality. He reformulated a cheap vitamin A tablet and got WHO to recommend it. Measles mortality dropped by millions. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2003/sommer-vita
Yes, admittedly so. Today I saw Doctors Against Borders Facebook decrying deaths due to measles. I thought I'd give thousands of people something that might be useful to share to Doctors Against Borders a few times. More on VitA to come.
in my community, we stress that the protocol is ONLY for two days and never repeated for at least 3 or 4 months. we also only recommend it for those already on basic biomed programs that hopefully include liver & bile flow & detox pathway support, appropriate for the individual.
the 'vitamin A protocol' (and different variations, some adding D) is well known and successful (when used appropriately of course!) in the biomedical treatment of ASD (& related disorders) community. many of our kids (& adults) have immune dysfunction of varying degrees (most notably PANS, PANDAS and other conditions where the body is 'stuck' in the over-production of antibodies, which cause so much damage, especially to the brain itself). I look at the protocol as 'slapping' the immune system, getting its attention and prompting it to right itself. (super simplistic explanation, I know. Dr Jack is rolling his eyes here but hey, I'm just a mom with a psychology degree, who's attempted to educate herself on this stuff over the years.)
Twenty-eight years ago there was a chicken pox outbreak in my kid's nursery school, so I was quite vigilant for what was coming, and as soon as I saw the first signs of poxiness, I gave him the contents of a beta-carotene capsule, in addition to those wonderful Hylands Vitamin C tablets that dissolved instantly in the mouth.
He had one bad feverish night and a couple of very very itchy days to follow, but very few actual pustules and a quick recovery.
The premise that measles is a cause of morbidity and fighting that is knuckle-headed because it doesn't consider other possibilities such as the possibility that measles is a form of necessary stress for the body to expand its capability against inhospitable invaders is never even given the light of day. Yes a few children die of it but let's look at why - are they malnourished? Is it a form of "natural selection" (though I don't espouse Darwinism) but something of that nature where nature automatically cleans the gene pool? This and so much more is completely ignored in $cience today. And people are sicker than ever before, even within my own lifetime I can see that. However this makes me feel like superwoman compared to everyone around me who take pills and don't care what they put in or on their body. My body can take a beating every now and then without any adverse effects. This is what a healthy body is about. But everyone is so fixated on sickness that they never really understand that true health means you can get on with life, your body will support what you want to do with your life.
Yes, I knew. Also learned from Neil Z Miller.
When I was a child in the 1950s, we all got measles, mumps and chicken pox. These were a normal part of childhood and not feared. We had “chicken pox parties,” to ensure kids got these when young. Parents and doctors observed that afterwards, kids had growth spurts and were more resilient.
As Denise Ward's comment indicates, with each normal childhood “disease,” our immune systems matured. These “diseases” were part of the process of development of our immune systems, and not a bad thing in those days. We acquired natural immunity for life and contributed to herd immunity. There was an episode of the Brady Bunch in which all 6 kids were happy to get measles and miss school and said, something like "if you have to get sick, at least it's only the measles." I'm guessing they had enough vitamin A. Later one of the actors who played the daughter dismissed that comment and told everyone to get vaccines.
Furthermore, I recently learned that viruses are part of our evolution. Zach Bush and others described how we have evolved for millennia with viruses and the “virome.” We continually adapt to our environment. When the environment changes enough, it throws off a virus. When we deal with the virus, our immune systems evolve to adapt to the changing environment. On and on …
Btw, the introduction of childhood vaccines has altered what we had, messing with our evolutionary biology. See https://coronawise.substack.com/p/new-diagnosis-artificially-induced
I too was stunned to learn about how much of our ancient DNA is made up of snippets of viral genome. the very idea that the current 'goal' of eliminating viruses is INSANE, when looked at in this context!
Yea and several years ago a man from Somalia was jailed or somehow stopped from providing high dose vitamin A to his countrymen and children during an outbreak there when people were dying. Measles vaccine during outbreak was pushed instead which of course caused more death and disease. Haven’t read in a while but pretty sure on this and will find references if anyone interested.
Same thing happened with a measles outbreak in the Solomon Islands area of the South Pacific - a man who personally gave money and raised more money to purchase nutritional supplements and tried to distribute them and teach his fellow citizens nutritional interventions and how to dose zinc, vitamin A and C properly to treat measles and prevent complications such as pneumonia especially in the youngest babies and the malnourished, was arrested and imprisoned because the government was determined to keep up the propaganda that measles is always deadly, untreatable, and only preventable with jabs. The gov. forcibly mass-vaccinated using police powers and WHO personnel flown in (with MMR polyvalent live vaccines) every person on every island including naturally immune older adults, previously vaccinated children and adults, pregnant women, and unvaccinated babies too young to get MMR because they can die from live attenuated virus vaccines. The vitamins and educational pamphlets were destroyed and barely any reached the people who begged for them. Many children died right after getting these vaccines. But we never heard about that in MSM.
Yes! It’s premeditated murder as we know. Time to flip the Blinkin tables
You’re correct and it wasn’t only Somalia. Island nations. They intentionally murdered people first by denying them vitamins and second by mandating the toxic injections. All intentional. I wonder how much was paid out to make that happen.
That is interesting. Dr David Brownstein, before being largely banished from the internet for dispensing truth, in his protocols for fighting viral afflictions (covid), was recommending the oil based Vit A at 100,000 IU for 4 days, and then quit. Several other parts to his treatment protocol, but he claimed great success for decades using vitamins and a nebulizer (normal saline, H2O2, iodine)
This makes me wonder in general about all vaccines and their respective diseases. In theory the need for a given vaccine should be reassessed periodically as other potential treatments emerge but I doubt this type of reassessment is actually occurring for any of them. Seems once a vaccine is in place unless its dangerous there is no removing it even if the original risk isn't much of a risk anymore
You should be looking at all vaccines. Everyone should have been all along. There is a reason the “anti vaxx” movement was born when the toxins were first used, even the scratch type way back when. Pharma and the government will never willingly give up the cash cow. They all make too much money off them AND they’ve always been a wonderful eugenics tool, not to mention, they keep the machine operating w the medical mafia.
I have been. Its not a pleasant experience.
A couple functional medicine doctors recommend taking vitamin A in the form of retinol at 50,000 IU for 2 to 3 days for covid as well as 5000 IU for women and 10,000 IU for men daily during flu season. I thought the 50,000 IU was a super high dose, but don't anymore given young children were given 200,000 IU for two days in this review paper. I wonder if FLCCC ever considered adding vitamin A to any of their protocols.
the idea that vitamins are somehow 'toxic' is one that is pervasive in the mainstream medical education. the dogma is drummed into people and so hard to get past. it all goes back to the Rockefeller bull**** that started the pharma-only model of medical treatment. but really, 50k iu is NOT a massive dose when only given for 2 days. the protocol I have followed (and its ONLY to be done ONCE every 3 or 4 months. and I would always recommend it being done with the help of a knowledgeable practitioner) is 300k iu, with an additional 200k iu of D. I have personally witnessed it WORKING, several times.
That's a helluva lot of sweet potatoes, carrots, or liver.
If, as a general rule, society, including kids, actually ate those things AND they were ruined w toxic pesticides and herbicides like they are today, which makes them nutrient deficient, along w over farming the land commercially, people probably wouldn’t need doses that high, but since that’s not the case...
I appreciate that perspective. Having learned much more about permaculture and developing interconnected farming practices, I agree that how the majorities of farms and ranches grow and produce are not conducive to nutritious and healthy habits but instead generate lots of chronic, debilitating drags throughout society.
But the flipside of this does mean that many people won't have the opportunities to eat healthy and feed appropriately, because the cultivation and preservation of those farming techniques and lifestyles won't sustain the large but unhealthy populations synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and bioengineered organisms currently do. And not without the distribution systems currently in place arranged around the world.
That is, unless the people themselves opt to move out of the suburbs, the projects, the city blocks, and into smaller communes and clusters where they spend the majority of their time working at farming, growing, harvesting, preparing, canning, without electricity, without easy amusement, without the drama of dissipation and drugs. Difficult sell, right?
Many people carry certain genetics that reduce or almost nullify their ability to convert beta-carotene from veggies into the active vitA the body needs, therefore only animal sources will work for them fyi
What is the point to this article???
it is an old news. Dr. Alan Sommer studying mild vitamin a deficiency and night blindness in 70x in Indonesia found that one needs to supplement vitamin A to decrease measles mortality. He reformulated a cheap vitamin A tablet and got WHO to recommend it. Measles mortality dropped by millions. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2003/sommer-vita
Perhaps valuable info worth sharing irregardless of it being ‘old news’
Yes, admittedly so. Today I saw Doctors Against Borders Facebook decrying deaths due to measles. I thought I'd give thousands of people something that might be useful to share to Doctors Against Borders a few times. More on VitA to come.
Good, just acknowledge Alan, he is a walking legend. Thank you.
"In general, toxicity is uncommon in intakes lower than 30 mg/day (25,000–30,000 IU/day) "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8157347/
It seems continued high doses are to be avoided
Yes, it is clear that VitA for prolonged periods has toxicity.
https://www.aimu.us/2017/12/15/hypervitaminosis-a-symptoms-causes-diagnosis-and-management/
in my community, we stress that the protocol is ONLY for two days and never repeated for at least 3 or 4 months. we also only recommend it for those already on basic biomed programs that hopefully include liver & bile flow & detox pathway support, appropriate for the individual.
the 'vitamin A protocol' (and different variations, some adding D) is well known and successful (when used appropriately of course!) in the biomedical treatment of ASD (& related disorders) community. many of our kids (& adults) have immune dysfunction of varying degrees (most notably PANS, PANDAS and other conditions where the body is 'stuck' in the over-production of antibodies, which cause so much damage, especially to the brain itself). I look at the protocol as 'slapping' the immune system, getting its attention and prompting it to right itself. (super simplistic explanation, I know. Dr Jack is rolling his eyes here but hey, I'm just a mom with a psychology degree, who's attempted to educate herself on this stuff over the years.)
Well, funny thing.
Twenty-eight years ago there was a chicken pox outbreak in my kid's nursery school, so I was quite vigilant for what was coming, and as soon as I saw the first signs of poxiness, I gave him the contents of a beta-carotene capsule, in addition to those wonderful Hylands Vitamin C tablets that dissolved instantly in the mouth.
He had one bad feverish night and a couple of very very itchy days to follow, but very few actual pustules and a quick recovery.