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I will check on Italy and see if I can get any info.

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.....if there's ONE thing I've been taught by these past two-plus years, it's that the WAY those who most STAND to be adversely impacted REACT to discussion of such possibilities, speaks VOLUMES - and far, FAR too many correlations Bryan has identified DO add up to a strong LIKELIHOOD for me; let's start with one VERY reasonable point you make: under NORMAL conditions, it's TRUE certain proteins WOULDN'T survive gastrointestinal enzymatic processes, yes - but if they're ALSO utilizing LNPs to PROTECT against their material dissolution (ESPECIALLY in conjunction with graphene 'dynabeads' / 'microbubbles' / 'quantum dots' / 'smart powder', which could similarly possess a 1,700-degrees-Fahrenheit thermal threshold and strength MASSIVELY surpassing titanium's - if NOT necessarily 4,000 lbs. / two TONS of tensile resiliency; delivery through municipal water systems, effectiveness MIGHT then be relative to EITHER hydrophilia OR phobia resulting from particular constituent reactionary charge values) ANYthing's possible - as TO said correlative findings, having MOST alternatively-recognized mitigants he cites (hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, NAC / glutathione, nicotine - to say NOTHING of a DECIDEDLY-counterintuitive affect metric among tobacco SMOKERS) be RELIABLY scheduled by the FDA for BANISHMENT, and true PREPONDERANCE of SPECIFIED herpetological references, at least recommends EXTENSIVE further analysis of his assertion, JLW.....

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Do you might like the analysis I presented, or something else?

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Hi, Jamie - not sure I understand the question.....are you asking me if I favor another set of conclusions?

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Given I just did an in-depth analysis, you are implying you'd like to see more, or different?

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.....ADDITIONAL, I'd say; increase the population to be reviewed - would serve to either reinforce an instinct to dis(re)gard or further corroborate - and YEAH, maybe BOTH.....

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I have so many questions but I guess my big one is, is it possible to engineer a virus to make a protein once inside the body to manufacture the protein of venom? Is it also possible to create the codes in the mRNA injections? The symptoms are similar between venom and covid, and the 'long haul' seems to affect weakened areas of ones body (lungs, kidneys liver etc) in chronically ill individuals (lyme, CFS autoimmunity). My other question to this theory is why are the kids not affected? I don't think it's in the water, but I'm curious since it appears the virus is very closely related to snakes genetically, if it's possible to be engineered to create the venom protein once inside the body. With what can be done through Gain of Function, why WOULDN'T it be possible? or is this just a theory to bust apart our contingency? I just want to know if its possible, not that it was actually done. this theory does make so much sense though. It can explain the long covid...

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And yes, Dr. Jack I think your measured commentary speaks volumes, but it still leaves questions. So if a person can naturally produce such enzymes that match snake venom, isn't his a perfect cover???. Again, is it plausible to engineer a virus and a gene therapy to create this protein?

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We can put any protein into any bacterium or virus. The absence of homology between the venom proteins and SARS-CoV-2 proteins tells me that hypothesis has no data.

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.....COULD those who produced them, have identified a means of OBFUSCATING their origins, pathology, relationship though? I do believe so.....

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Yes. But there is no sequence-based evidence regarding the link between venom proteins and the CoV-2 virus. And people have been using venom to treat autoimmunity. Those w autoimmunity are the one who get sick w COVID when infected w SCV2

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.....how would you explain Bryan being able to produce studies of more than a FEW other groups formally investigating if there's connections between the two, Jamie? Guess my questions are, what has precisely MOST determined there isn't for you? Who first thought to explore such a possibility - Braun? From your analysis, seem to suggest a measure of.....genetic ambiguity which makes confirmation, difficult (?)

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I guess my reply to that would be does HIV have homology (potentially from a monkey or a human?)? isn't this all on the genetic level? Isn't the data there that shows CoV-2 is closely related to snakes? I realize I have much to learn in this field but, if they dice and splice up genes, why not? Homology be damned. It's an instruction, right?

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There are no data showing CoV-2 is similar to snakes. It was only the codon usage - which is fairly weak. Snake eat bats, it's POSSIBLE there is a co-evolution between the virus (picking up snake venom, snake bites one bat, virus spreads, bats fall from the sky, snakes benefit). But no sequence-level similarity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codon_usage_bias

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I'll also say that in the plant world, many plants share the same constituents, for example thymol is in many plants, not just thyme. This is a terpene molecule.....the smelly parts of plants. I am sure animals share similar coding for things in their body's as well, like venom proteins. Nature is smart and doesn't try to reinvent the wheel typically and will use similar molecules to makes different constituents. perhaps they are coding for this snail venom??

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.....or to put it ANOTHER way, 'AROMATICS', 'spirits'.....

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Some type of sea-creature is used for virus creation in laboratories exclusively; it's like a primer assembly fluid.

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Because of the similarity in symptoms of venom poisoning, we do have to wonder. Dr. Jack, I trust, so the virus likely didn't come from a snake, (while there is a 'hint' of a snake gene code in there somewhere). Either way it's all very interesting and Dr. Ardis has some interesting points, but many more questions than answers.

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But I also am very interested and Gain of Function and how growing viruses on different cells to replicated the virus. The virus goes on to pick up these cells....this is how they create chimera. I think we can all agree that this virus was manipulated/made in a lab. Could it just be that growing viruses in snake cells could be manipulated as such to pick up those genes to encode a venom? Seems like these mad scientists playing god figure out how to hurt us instead of using these innovations to heal. We need to stick to the science, and I am VERY aware of controlled opposition and the CIA interference in messaging and public thought: enter the Flat Earth theory which has seemingly been reinvigorated in the last few years.....word is, the CIA mind melding the masses. Does anyone know Dr. Ardis personally? remember, money is a powerful motivator. He seems sincere but...

https://mythopedia.com/topics/chimera

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All things are possible via the miracle of modern molecular biology. yes, you can select for codon usage bias in the lab. I don't know how many passages. Yep. Viruses can pick of pieces of host genomes. Yep, we can insert anything we want into Coronaviruses. The question is one of evidence. There is little doubt given the totality of the circumstantial evidence that SCV2 escaped the lab. But no sequence-based smoking gun like a smuggled laptop or lab notebook or messages from 2019 from a scientist to a loved one saying "we're doing X, Y and Z and I'm afraid if this escapes, and we're using this virus as the backbone..." etc. We need whistleblowers, and they would be killed by CCP if they tried. So...

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I do remember one chinese woman talking about the virus being lab made and she made an analogy of the virus having a pieces and parts form different animals (deer antlers, body of a horse etc etc). I do not remember her name.thank you Dr. Jack. :)

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In order to answer something we have to use words, so words are the answer. Language could have the answer.

In 100 years of medical science literature we will find the word "virus" some trillions and trillions of times. But "virus " is not an English word. Virus is a Latin word. Do not use it. The English word for "virus" is "venom", so use the word venom. So, if everybody reading millions of medical documents use the word "venom" instead of "virus" we will get different answers. Maybe covid is not a snake venom but is a venom. The medical science has say it all. The venom that cause polio... the venom that cause measles... the venom that cause Ebola... and so on, and so on.

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Thank you. I did watch that Stew Peters report, and I was thinking “GET TO THE POINT!!!” the whole time. I thought it was done in a very obnoxious way. There was no need for so many long, dramatic pauses and keeping everyone, who is already at diminished capacity and completely exhausted from all of this, in such suspense dragged out over an hour. Too much infusion of their personalities, both Dr. Ardis’ and Stew Peters’, along with mood emphasis music, when all we wanted to hear were the distilled facts. Just so obnoxious.

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......Bryan's (like SO many others') PREDISPOSITION to evangelistic religiosity within disclosure-culture circles, has been a HUGE problem for me, and I've tried VALIANTLY to EXPRESS that to some of them for WELL over a year now - with nearly NO acknowledgment; just INCREDIBLY counterproductive, OFFPUTTING to MANY they MIGHT be aspiring to reach - but, SO much of the information they've provided, IS invaluable.....still, believe SPs' producers attempted to viscerally communicate HOW profoundly BOTH of them had been AFFECTED by his findings.....

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I find disclosure of a person’s religious disposition or lack there of is helpful…..it tells me their ultimate starting point as to where knowledge comes from. Whether you believe God created or the world spontaneously evolved matters. For example: when my atheist son had his bike got stolen and he called me upset, I responded “why do you care in your world it is survival of the fittest and you lost…..in my world thou shall not steal……but you don’t live in my world so your bike problem is your doing it is the world you chose to live in and help create”

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Apr 14, 2022·edited Apr 14, 2022

When I saw that Ardis was a chiropractor, I went no further. Chiropractry is not based on science, but rather upon Aurveda the traditional medicine of India. Ayurveda posits the existence of spiritual organs called Chakras, stacked atop one another up the spine. Each Chakra performs a specific function, and all must remain in perfect alignment in order enable the Kundalini (serpent) energy to enter the base of the spine, then up the spine and out the top of the head. If there is no interference with this flow, you are assured of being happy, healthy, and holy. Pure Chiropractic doctrine posits that chiropractry is capable of curing all disease, although few practicing chiropractors carry it that far.

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.....I take ISSUE with your tacit conclusion that chiropractic - and by extension certain aspects of OSTEOPATHY, aren't 'scientific', David - MANY physicists have been WELL aware referential (producing 'consciousness', a biofeedback system) resonant informational effects - VITALIZING 'energies,' are RECONCILED, contextualized by aggregate structures of variable-density distributions / 'frequencies' (INCLUDING us, ALL 'life', synthesized PHARMACEUTICALS) so as to maintain their subjective coherence - an example being the hierarchy of compensatory response to multiple physical impacts; 'chakras' but those evolutionarily-established corresponding INTERFACES relative TO such attributes and associated disciplines, OPTIMIZING the efficient coordination OF same.....

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It gets REALLY tiresome to read POSTS with such FREQUENTLY capitalized WORDS! FWIW...

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.....I don't have PRACTICAL resources to create emphatic distinction OTHERWISE, Robert - and it's ostensibly NOT such an imposition for MANY.....never been critical of others' compositional style, because I can understand that THESE threads, are the ONLY means to convey REAL emotion (HOWEVER much that matters) - we haven't EVER needed such catharsis MORE, than NOW.

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LOL, lol, LOL!

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Nope - NOT much, as I submit.....just SOOOOO gratifying to participate in ANYthing these days....

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They are right up there with acupuncturists. But I know so many people who swear by both. I just say, more power to you if it works for you. I have never chosen to get treatment by either.

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Chiropractry and acupuncture go together as can be seen by the fact that many chiropractors practice acupuncture also. Please don't get me started on acupuncture.

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Hahaha! But I bet what you have to say is quite entertaining ☺️

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This whole thing has gone viral, so I'm glad to see "heavyweights" like you weighing in! The Children's Health Defense article cited by Maurine is great, as is Steve Kirsch's Substack ~ link below. Kirsch and his team are meeting with Dr. Ardis today for a Q&A regarding his assertions.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-i-think-of-the-bryan-ardis-video?s=r

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Thank you! No, venom molecules are NOT the problem here. And no, it isn't in the water and Ardis doesn't talk chemistry, bio-anything with citations. I'm concerned about all emotion and dopamine thrilling for clicks. I need rationality in explanations and none of it hangs together.

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I scratched my head watching Watch the Water.

Claims in this article that people self envenomized is also wild. All the subjects happened to select the same venoms to try to cure themselves from covid? Seriously?

As for Baiocchi's paper, my understanding is that severe covid induces autoimmunity (vs people with pre-existing autoimmunity are more likely to get severe covid).

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“You cannot know anything unless you know everything”……because what you don’t know can change what you think you know so I think humility is necessary and pride comes before the fall.

What not go with Ardis’s hypothesis do a larger study and control the variables and see if it trends towards venom poisoning over virus.

When someone is quick to pull the gas lighting lever on anyone else….it says more about your sense of insecurity than the other persons lack of knowledge.

Even people with a lot of expensive degrees can be wrong if the data they were given was wrong.

I am glad I am married to an “MD” that is willing to consider that it could be venom causing all of the weird variations of complaints and diseases in patients…..

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Apr 15, 2022·edited Apr 15, 2022

I read several substack articles, saw the Brighteon video with Ardis and read hundreds of comments. My main question earlier today after all that was: “ I wonder what Dr Lyons-Weiler has to say?”

P.s. still considering the hypotheses.

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I have followed you for years, way before Covid came on the scene. So I am in no way dismissing anything in your article. I'm just wondering if you have analyzed these?

On Part 1 of Mike Adams interview he was showing the data and the media that were discussing Snake Venom. Mike asked him to put all the articles together in a PDF that he was using and I am hopeful that will happen.

Two articles of interest:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/snakes-could-be-the-original-source-of-the-new-coronavirus-outbreak-in-china/

WEF meeting in 2018 https://www.weforum.org/events/annual-meeting-of-the-global-future-councils-2018

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220412/Venomtech-announces-new-drug-development-collaboration-with-Charles-River.aspx

Venomtech has been at the forefront of venom research for drug discovery for more than a decade. Through this relationship with Charles River Laboratories – a global leader for drug discovery contract research – we can now showcase our innovative technology, introducing the wider industry to the potential of venoms for the successful delivery of more leads, more quickly, for a broad range of targets.

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Yes. The first one is the codon usage bias I mentioned. There is a large literature on the potential medicine use of animal venom. It's not new. It's just new to most people. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=medicinal+venom&sort=date

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I really appreciate your take on the matter, it makes a lot of sense to me. 👍🏽🙏

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Molecular mimicry: we were reminded of this phenomenon by Dr. Dolores Cahill on Tuesday’s zoom call. More puzzling puzzle pieces. The psychopaths developing these poisons have been working on it for years.

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I'm leaning toward the view that there is no sars-cov-2 virus at all.

Having learned how standard virologists go about claiming that they have identified a virus it is clear that the methods they use are invalid.

Indeed it would appear that all claims relating to the existence of any virus types are equally invalid.

There is an interesting series of documentaries that expose just how flimsy virology is -

The viral delusion

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jajyAdPMdzfJ/

Of course this position does not discount that the contents of the covid 'vaccines' and other so called treatments could contain anything.

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The pharmaceutical industry is based upon this lie that ‘viruses’ exist. They will fight head, toe and nail in order to have it continue this way. Fortunately there are a lot, a tremendous lot to find out there that are and will expose that. When you look, you’ll find.

Covid is a made up ‘thingy’.

If people really understood how sickness appear in their bodies they would take better care of them and then avoid all chemicals and toxic shit that all to many pharmaceuticals consists of. Take also in consideration the GMO-food, other processed food many gobble down without giving it a second thought, toxic EMF, stress, to little sleep, no sunshine, alcohol or drugs in excess, nothing that gives some type meaning to life and much more and you’ll have a recipe for a upcoming health crisis.

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