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Eric F Coppolino's avatar

First of all, to call it "denialism" is not just an insult but it's wrong...nobody investigating the virus is in denial. We have come up with findings that all involve the use of metagenomics to construct the "virus" and/or the use of in silico, theoretical "sequences." I'm not sure how to get past this paywall-style refusal to allow that discussion. To swat people and say they are denialists has gone beyond a mere error and entered the realm of sheer intellectual dishonesty.

Those who know me know that my task and quest as a journalist was to understand the SCOV-2 PCR assay. And nearly three years in, my questions are: if there is whole live virion from a human host, why wasn't that sequenced and instead, these metagenomic things have been used? Also, why are they using metagenomics for ALL of these "sequences" and not doing denovo from uncontaminated samples of BALF? Why do we need calf and monkey cells added to the genetic broth?

Second, if there is a real sequence, why are the primers for all PCRs ALL in silico?

Third, why does CDC use terms like "mimicked clinical specimen" and "contrived virus"? That needs to be accounted for.

Finally, we have 209 responses from governments and institutions in 35 countries saying they have no evidence of a sample of whole SARS-CoV-2 taken from a human host

It would seem to be that the only people in denial are pretending that this set of conditions leads to the conclusion that somebody actually has a sample of this stuff said to have killed seven million people and responsible for the shutdown of the economy and the destruction of the modern world.

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Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

Thank you for taking this head on. I talk about this is in all of my presentations. We have electron microscope images of these viral particles outside human cells, inside human cells, and attached to human cells. We understand the biological mechanisms whereby they are pulled into cells, copied, and released. The problem is, we have never actually seen one do that, and we never will due to the limitations of microscopy.

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