Is efficacy against transmission is eroding, while durability of protection against severe disease being preserved? Has the MMR run its efficacy lifecycle out? What does this mean for school mandates?
The issue is the bogus "diagnostic tests/regime," including useless PCR, not to mention what exactly is "measles' beyond the propaganda symptoms of "rash/fever." Bottom Line: Idiocy remains off the charts. Entirely made-up. All we know is appearance of rash and mild clinical symptoms which is present in a host of clinic presentations. All so silly.
Did you look into what biochemist & inventer Kary Mullis had to say about using his PCR for testing people? Or the fraudulent increased PCR cycle rate to fraudulently find COVID anywhere? In your studies, do you consider all the Fraud fines and bribes Big Pharma pays out each year to keep the money flowing in? I.e., all questions inquiring minds want to know!
Of course you can use PCR to detect viruses, but I've been complaining about the mislabeled quantitative RT-PCR used in COVID since April 2020 and have led the charge to require sequence verification, and continue to do so. https://ipaknowledge.org/naat-evaluation-consortium.php Watch HHS for action on this problem - hopefully.
so pcr test has a matching sequence to purported “measles virus? or some fragment of “virus?” where did they get it? who is it that confirms “measles” genome? who validates control? who created control? i mean that people adhere to this “in silico” grift/nonsense at this stage of the fraud is just jaw dropping? it is a circle jerk but apparently people believe it. god help us
I think one thing that must first be explored is if the change in leadership has led to a more honest capture of data? Because the Quebec study of 2011 clearly indicated that infection was imported through a double vaccinated teacher visiting france, and that waning immunity is a major factor. So its not new. But it may be newly honest in captuting data . Like most of these politically incentivized campagns the tends to be a substantial lack of rigour when it come to perceived benefits that have a direct affect of policies (such as mandates). It may not be that the vaccine has simply become outdated to an evolved measels vaccine ( or that newky vaccinated are permitted to be exposed to the virus leading to immune escape and evolution). It may mean that the vaccine was never sterilizing and that other interventions actually play a much bigger role. This is something i have argued , but somehow the academics in this field have yet to dive into. Lots has changed over the last 100 years . Clean water and nutrition is often brought up, but i would suggest looking deeper. Diagnostics has played a substantial role . Being able to accurately identify and diagnose a pathogen within a short period of time and then have the ability to communicate across the globe eithin minutes plays a large role in control and mitigation of the spread of infection diseases. While at some point in history a prophelactic may have played a more signigicant role , it overall value becomes diminished as other mitigation managemrnt capacities increase. The story of genetically modified vitamin A rice should resound as clear evidence of a time when dome honesty in these agencies was somewhat higher then what it has become. The capacity to treat is far higher today then in bygone times. I thingpk one day vaccines may even be deemed as archaic and an obscene risk to impose upon people . All rlse considered
I've long held the (justified) bias that vaccine efficacy statistics were manipulated to the degree that I don't have any reason to believe they're effective at all. There are any number of ways that they can and DO fudge who gets the measles, who doesn't, and who gets tested and who doesn't. But this line absolutely destroys all the credibility that they didn't have (I know, that line works about as well as vaccines do):
"Under current public‑health surveillance rules, measles case definitions are agnostic to vaccination status."
Under CURRENT public-health surveillance rules. And just what were the FORMER rules that were followed when the MMR vaccine was supposedly 94% effective? This is an explosive admission that vaccine statistics are a lie.
So not only have we had a public health industry that only looks at one side of the vaccine coin: efficacy, while ignoring the other side: safety, but they've been trumping up the efficacy all along.
It's no surprise, of course. And it can't even make me more cynical than I already was because I've maxxed out on my cynicism with these scoundrels.
So why can't you just believe in our 62 Billion in FRAUD fines and leader in cause of death & harm/ Big Pharma "medicine" (That has only killed 32,400,000 in my lifetime) (according to A.I !) (Not to mention all the more harm they caused!) Sure, my life was saved by modern medicine more than once!) BUT my Dad, Wife & best friend were killed by iatrogenic "medicine," and an MMR jab induced ASD, grandson! ( I think it's all to teach us Romans 6:23, "Death is the wages of sin!" 1095 iatrogenic deaths a day is evidence of some sin! [Fact!] God help us and save us from Big Pharma! Amen.
Because MMR is a live virus vaccine, people who receive the vaccine can contract measles and in fact, this is the most likely side effect of receiving the MMR. One recent study showed that shedding of measles vaccine RNA is not uncommon and vaccine RNA can be detected in the nasopharyngeal samples up to 29 days post MMR. From January 2022 to March 2023, 127 NP from children who received MMR were tested. Ninety-six nasopharyngeal(NP) samples were collected after the first dose, of which 33 (34.4 %) were positive for vaccine RNA. The median interval between MMR and detection was 11.0 days. Unfortunately, there is no information on how this relates to actively replicating virus.
Another study showed live attenuated measles virus (vaccine-virus) RNA was frequently detected in the respiratory tract 7–21 days after subcutaneous measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccination in healthy children (n = 5/20) and macaques (n = 6/8). Replicating vaccine-virus was isolated from the lungs of 2 macaques.
One should ask how many of those measles positives were typed to determine if any were actually vaccine strain or wild type strain. Certain strains circulate in specific areas of the world which would help determine the source of any cases. Public health professionals should want to know what strains are circulating and where they originated.
I sure would like you two PhD's opinion on all the iatrogenic deaths and harm caused by our $62.3 billion in fraud fines Big Pharma! But I know, & you know, and most people know what happens to PhDs who threaten the pharma's money machine and catell!
All making PhDs nothing more than pimps for the industry! Hoe sad is that?
The biggest reason I didn't want a PhD was because I didn't want to work for pharma. I didn't want to make drugs, sell drugs, or promote drugs. The best drugs actually come from nature.
A 2007 study by the CDC to evaluate the persistence of measles antibodies after 2 doses of measles vaccine showed measles antibody persisted in all vaccinees available for follow-up 10 years after a second dose of vaccine with about 35% of vaccinated 7-year-olds susceptible to subclinical infection with measles virus. Immunity from the vaccine wanes so that by age 15, about 60% of vaccinated children are susceptible to subclinical infection with measles virus, and by age 24–26, a projected 33% of vaccinated adults are susceptible to clinical infection. https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/measles-or-mmr-weighing-the-risks
Also, they recommend giving MMR prophylactically if someone has been exposed to measles which is a very dangerous practice. Giving a live virus vaccine when someone may be harboring wild type virus can cause someone to exhibit symptoms much sooner then they would otherwise have and also the illness will be more severe. During the outbreak in Texas, I called the health department to ask what clinical trials or peer reviewed studies they relied upon to make such a recommendation and I have yet to receive a call back with that information. Public health "professionals" make recommendations without having any understanding of vaccines or vaccinal immunity which is a very dangerous precedent.
Making pin cushions of babies, using toxic mercury, aluminium, and other toxic additives! Helps the industry maintain the need for more First Do Harm "medicine." How else could "Medicines" death toll reach *250,000 to over 400,000 annually, making medical error a leading cause of death? It's all academic till your loved ones are killed and harmed by [so-called] "medicvine"! (* according to A.I. )
My happy, wide-eyed, and alert baby grandson got a104 temperature for days, [then became atustic post jab] following the forced, fraudulent, toxic, MMR jab from our 62 billion in fraud fines and leader in iatrogenic cause of death and harm, Big Pharma, whose "medicine" kills 400,000 each year! [fact] [not to mention all the fraudulent harm they cause] as my jab-induced ASD grandson has suffered with for 25 years! Godless brainwashed suckers and fools look to Big Pharma for salvation, only to find death and harm! God save us from Big [fraudulent] Pharma! Amen.
So JLW in my various health groups we have some virus deniers. “No virus has ever been isolated blah blah blah You’re just expelling toxins, blah blah blah “ My real world experience says otherwise. How do I shut them up?
ignore them. As someone told me it's like playing chess with a pigeon. They kick all the pieces off the board and shit all over it and then say they won. It's not worth your time and energy.
How many others exposed to the measles-infected person on that international flight did not become infected and what was their vaccination status? Does the report include those numbers?
The measles vaccine does not work. Real placebo controlled double blind clinical trial data shows negative efficacy. Not this phony "guess" the CDC uses.
Danish MMR vaccine Study Randomized Placebo controlled
When I was a child we had measles parties. With the exception of children who are constitutionally weak, most children recover and are set for life. I see no reason to have a measles vaccine, particularly mRNA "vaccines" that aren't fully tested and are really gene therapies. Having measles is no fun, it's true. But the best way to stop transmission is a healthy immune system that kills it. When I was sick, my neighbor's son gave me all his Superman comics. I wish we'd kept them, what they'd be worth now!
Lack of repeated exposure affects immune durability. Vaccinated need to be exposed to the measles virus in order to keep boosting their immunity into older age. Parents of vaccinated children have been told to be fearful of the unvaccinated. Little do they know that it may in fact be the unvaccinated kids in the classroom and in the community that can potentially prolong their child's immunity. When the vaccinated are exposure to the diseases they're vaccinated against, it stimulates an immune response, increases their titers and prolongs the duration of that vaccine immunity. If their immune systems aren't challenged by that exposure, it may decrease the duration of their immunity. The MMR vaccine has a variable duration, lasting anything from 5-20 years or longer. The duration depending on ethnicity and sex, but may also depend on exposure to the very diseases it's aimed at protecting against. Adults who contract Measles are especially at risk for developing complications. We are seeing an increasing number of people who have been fully vaccinated against MMR showing no titers (and therefore no immunity), less than 20 years after the vaccine. Some may argue that we can simply give more boosters, however this is expensive and difficult to enforce in the adult population and may result in immune fatigue (which I believe is more prevalent in vaccination-induced immunity).
What's concerning to me in the severity of illness in the unvaccinated as we have lost natural immunity in breastfeeding moms and in the general population.
Bring back the measles parties of my youth, they likely prevented more measles misery than any vaccine ever could!
For younger readers, in my youth, when a child came down with measles all the neighborhood children would be invited over so they were exposed at an age when measles was not dangerous.
The issue is the bogus "diagnostic tests/regime," including useless PCR, not to mention what exactly is "measles' beyond the propaganda symptoms of "rash/fever." Bottom Line: Idiocy remains off the charts. Entirely made-up. All we know is appearance of rash and mild clinical symptoms which is present in a host of clinic presentations. All so silly.
No, I looked into that. It's a different type of PCR, and even if it had a FP rate of 6%, it does not explain 44% vaccinated cases.
Did you look into what biochemist & inventer Kary Mullis had to say about using his PCR for testing people? Or the fraudulent increased PCR cycle rate to fraudulently find COVID anywhere? In your studies, do you consider all the Fraud fines and bribes Big Pharma pays out each year to keep the money flowing in? I.e., all questions inquiring minds want to know!
Of course you can use PCR to detect viruses, but I've been complaining about the mislabeled quantitative RT-PCR used in COVID since April 2020 and have led the charge to require sequence verification, and continue to do so. https://ipaknowledge.org/naat-evaluation-consortium.php Watch HHS for action on this problem - hopefully.
so pcr test has a matching sequence to purported “measles virus? or some fragment of “virus?” where did they get it? who is it that confirms “measles” genome? who validates control? who created control? i mean that people adhere to this “in silico” grift/nonsense at this stage of the fraud is just jaw dropping? it is a circle jerk but apparently people believe it. god help us
I think one thing that must first be explored is if the change in leadership has led to a more honest capture of data? Because the Quebec study of 2011 clearly indicated that infection was imported through a double vaccinated teacher visiting france, and that waning immunity is a major factor. So its not new. But it may be newly honest in captuting data . Like most of these politically incentivized campagns the tends to be a substantial lack of rigour when it come to perceived benefits that have a direct affect of policies (such as mandates). It may not be that the vaccine has simply become outdated to an evolved measels vaccine ( or that newky vaccinated are permitted to be exposed to the virus leading to immune escape and evolution). It may mean that the vaccine was never sterilizing and that other interventions actually play a much bigger role. This is something i have argued , but somehow the academics in this field have yet to dive into. Lots has changed over the last 100 years . Clean water and nutrition is often brought up, but i would suggest looking deeper. Diagnostics has played a substantial role . Being able to accurately identify and diagnose a pathogen within a short period of time and then have the ability to communicate across the globe eithin minutes plays a large role in control and mitigation of the spread of infection diseases. While at some point in history a prophelactic may have played a more signigicant role , it overall value becomes diminished as other mitigation managemrnt capacities increase. The story of genetically modified vitamin A rice should resound as clear evidence of a time when dome honesty in these agencies was somewhat higher then what it has become. The capacity to treat is far higher today then in bygone times. I thingpk one day vaccines may even be deemed as archaic and an obscene risk to impose upon people . All rlse considered
I've long held the (justified) bias that vaccine efficacy statistics were manipulated to the degree that I don't have any reason to believe they're effective at all. There are any number of ways that they can and DO fudge who gets the measles, who doesn't, and who gets tested and who doesn't. But this line absolutely destroys all the credibility that they didn't have (I know, that line works about as well as vaccines do):
"Under current public‑health surveillance rules, measles case definitions are agnostic to vaccination status."
Under CURRENT public-health surveillance rules. And just what were the FORMER rules that were followed when the MMR vaccine was supposedly 94% effective? This is an explosive admission that vaccine statistics are a lie.
So not only have we had a public health industry that only looks at one side of the vaccine coin: efficacy, while ignoring the other side: safety, but they've been trumping up the efficacy all along.
It's no surprise, of course. And it can't even make me more cynical than I already was because I've maxxed out on my cynicism with these scoundrels.
So why can't you just believe in our 62 Billion in FRAUD fines and leader in cause of death & harm/ Big Pharma "medicine" (That has only killed 32,400,000 in my lifetime) (according to A.I !) (Not to mention all the more harm they caused!) Sure, my life was saved by modern medicine more than once!) BUT my Dad, Wife & best friend were killed by iatrogenic "medicine," and an MMR jab induced ASD, grandson! ( I think it's all to teach us Romans 6:23, "Death is the wages of sin!" 1095 iatrogenic deaths a day is evidence of some sin! [Fact!] God help us and save us from Big Pharma! Amen.
Because MMR is a live virus vaccine, people who receive the vaccine can contract measles and in fact, this is the most likely side effect of receiving the MMR. One recent study showed that shedding of measles vaccine RNA is not uncommon and vaccine RNA can be detected in the nasopharyngeal samples up to 29 days post MMR. From January 2022 to March 2023, 127 NP from children who received MMR were tested. Ninety-six nasopharyngeal(NP) samples were collected after the first dose, of which 33 (34.4 %) were positive for vaccine RNA. The median interval between MMR and detection was 11.0 days. Unfortunately, there is no information on how this relates to actively replicating virus.
Another study showed live attenuated measles virus (vaccine-virus) RNA was frequently detected in the respiratory tract 7–21 days after subcutaneous measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccination in healthy children (n = 5/20) and macaques (n = 6/8). Replicating vaccine-virus was isolated from the lungs of 2 macaques.
One should ask how many of those measles positives were typed to determine if any were actually vaccine strain or wild type strain. Certain strains circulate in specific areas of the world which would help determine the source of any cases. Public health professionals should want to know what strains are circulating and where they originated.
I sure would like you two PhD's opinion on all the iatrogenic deaths and harm caused by our $62.3 billion in fraud fines Big Pharma! But I know, & you know, and most people know what happens to PhDs who threaten the pharma's money machine and catell!
All making PhDs nothing more than pimps for the industry! Hoe sad is that?
The biggest reason I didn't want a PhD was because I didn't want to work for pharma. I didn't want to make drugs, sell drugs, or promote drugs. The best drugs actually come from nature.
You sound like a fan of Hippocrates' "First do no harm"/ "God's food for medicine."
So what do you think about all Big Pharma's fraud and iatrogenic death they cause? I.e., more any fake or real plague ever to hit the USA!
A 2007 study by the CDC to evaluate the persistence of measles antibodies after 2 doses of measles vaccine showed measles antibody persisted in all vaccinees available for follow-up 10 years after a second dose of vaccine with about 35% of vaccinated 7-year-olds susceptible to subclinical infection with measles virus. Immunity from the vaccine wanes so that by age 15, about 60% of vaccinated children are susceptible to subclinical infection with measles virus, and by age 24–26, a projected 33% of vaccinated adults are susceptible to clinical infection. https://smithvirologist.substack.com/p/measles-or-mmr-weighing-the-risks
How can one believe anything from a 62 billion in fraud fines industery?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Also, they recommend giving MMR prophylactically if someone has been exposed to measles which is a very dangerous practice. Giving a live virus vaccine when someone may be harboring wild type virus can cause someone to exhibit symptoms much sooner then they would otherwise have and also the illness will be more severe. During the outbreak in Texas, I called the health department to ask what clinical trials or peer reviewed studies they relied upon to make such a recommendation and I have yet to receive a call back with that information. Public health "professionals" make recommendations without having any understanding of vaccines or vaccinal immunity which is a very dangerous precedent.
100%!
Making pin cushions of babies, using toxic mercury, aluminium, and other toxic additives! Helps the industry maintain the need for more First Do Harm "medicine." How else could "Medicines" death toll reach *250,000 to over 400,000 annually, making medical error a leading cause of death? It's all academic till your loved ones are killed and harmed by [so-called] "medicvine"! (* according to A.I. )
Has the widespread use of the Covid vaccine lowered the immune system and made some people more susceptible?
Bingo
My happy, wide-eyed, and alert baby grandson got a104 temperature for days, [then became atustic post jab] following the forced, fraudulent, toxic, MMR jab from our 62 billion in fraud fines and leader in iatrogenic cause of death and harm, Big Pharma, whose "medicine" kills 400,000 each year! [fact] [not to mention all the fraudulent harm they cause] as my jab-induced ASD grandson has suffered with for 25 years! Godless brainwashed suckers and fools look to Big Pharma for salvation, only to find death and harm! God save us from Big [fraudulent] Pharma! Amen.
So JLW in my various health groups we have some virus deniers. “No virus has ever been isolated blah blah blah You’re just expelling toxins, blah blah blah “ My real world experience says otherwise. How do I shut them up?
ignore them. As someone told me it's like playing chess with a pigeon. They kick all the pieces off the board and shit all over it and then say they won. It's not worth your time and energy.
Look at the current outbreak in South Carolina.
800 unvaccinated cases
16 partially vaccinated
22 fully vaccinated
38 unknown (typically likely unvaxxed.)
https://dph.sc.gov/diseases-conditions/infectious-diseases/measles-rubeola/measles-dashboard
The small sample size in Colorado isn't representative.
Utah data 2025-26
221 unvaccinated
12 unknown
18 vaccinated
https://files.epi.utah.gov/Utah%20measles%20dashboard.html
How many others exposed to the measles-infected person on that international flight did not become infected and what was their vaccination status? Does the report include those numbers?
The measles vaccine does not work. Real placebo controlled double blind clinical trial data shows negative efficacy. Not this phony "guess" the CDC uses.
Danish MMR vaccine Study Randomized Placebo controlled
2019 to 2021
MMR % infected Placebo % infected
N 3264 3272
Infected 786 24.0809% 762 23.2885%
Not Infected 2478 2510
Absolute Risk Reduction= -0.79%
Efficacy -3.40%
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(23)00598-9/fulltext
When I was a child we had measles parties. With the exception of children who are constitutionally weak, most children recover and are set for life. I see no reason to have a measles vaccine, particularly mRNA "vaccines" that aren't fully tested and are really gene therapies. Having measles is no fun, it's true. But the best way to stop transmission is a healthy immune system that kills it. When I was sick, my neighbor's son gave me all his Superman comics. I wish we'd kept them, what they'd be worth now!
Lack of repeated exposure affects immune durability. Vaccinated need to be exposed to the measles virus in order to keep boosting their immunity into older age. Parents of vaccinated children have been told to be fearful of the unvaccinated. Little do they know that it may in fact be the unvaccinated kids in the classroom and in the community that can potentially prolong their child's immunity. When the vaccinated are exposure to the diseases they're vaccinated against, it stimulates an immune response, increases their titers and prolongs the duration of that vaccine immunity. If their immune systems aren't challenged by that exposure, it may decrease the duration of their immunity. The MMR vaccine has a variable duration, lasting anything from 5-20 years or longer. The duration depending on ethnicity and sex, but may also depend on exposure to the very diseases it's aimed at protecting against. Adults who contract Measles are especially at risk for developing complications. We are seeing an increasing number of people who have been fully vaccinated against MMR showing no titers (and therefore no immunity), less than 20 years after the vaccine. Some may argue that we can simply give more boosters, however this is expensive and difficult to enforce in the adult population and may result in immune fatigue (which I believe is more prevalent in vaccination-induced immunity).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Measles+Antibody%3A+Reevaluation+of+Protective+Titers
What's concerning to me in the severity of illness in the unvaccinated as we have lost natural immunity in breastfeeding moms and in the general population.
Bring back the measles parties of my youth, they likely prevented more measles misery than any vaccine ever could!
For younger readers, in my youth, when a child came down with measles all the neighborhood children would be invited over so they were exposed at an age when measles was not dangerous.