We always hear this; larger people get sick more often because their immunity is less or somehow they are "compromised". There is NEVER any factual evidence provided by the doctors to support this idea. Could it be that if indeed larger people were getting sick more often then it might be the result of all that extra fat holding more toxic poisons?
Doctors should have a conversation with their patients that is both compassionate and professional. We don’t think being told about other conditions are blood pressure shaming or high cholesterol shaming. But telling someone they have an issue with no support to manage it is not helpful.
The fact that our doctors cannot offer support for healthy weight loss is a major problem!! They should all be required to watch 3 Eric Berg videos a day for a year.
Thank you. This is valuable information. I have obesity, which I have struggled with since childhood. And when I say struggled, I mean I have lost over 50 lbs 3 times and over 40 lbs 5 times, and maintained healthy BMI for a total 10 years in my teens and early 20s via very strict diet and exercise.
I also have psoriatic arthritis, which had a late onset in my 50s. My inflammatory markers are always normal. My coronary calcium score is zero despite elevated LDL.
PsA is not antibody-mediated.But in all my reading (and I work as a medical editor so I can follow most of the research), I can find no clear explanation as to why this obesity-related, immune-cell-mediated condition results in no elevation of my ESR or CRP and no changes in my immunoglobulin levels.
The function of the immune system in obesity is insufficiently understood. The weight stigma you allude to is a big part of the reason—the underlying assumption is that obese people have a moral failure, and that invalidates any claim we might have to research focusing on our physiology.
The notion that many obese have no self control is ignorant and gives people like that horrid beth person above permission to be viciously hateful. In fact I recall reading a study long ago that it was just the opposite. I have, all my life, had to decide when to stop eating because I don't get those signals. I have tried a number of exercises to try to bring them on, and they don't work. I don't eat junk food. I read that much of this can be from early childhood where feeding can set or upset the physical satiety signal, and looking back I can see where this could be true. I remember once in my life I was eating and all of a sudden I just didn't want anymore, even though it was delicious. Once. It was marvelous. That's why I remember it.
Shaming is in the mouth of nasty people like that horrid beth above, and it's time to call their false moral superiority out. Where some people eat for comfort, it generates the cycle. Some people also want to be unattractive, as some abuse survivors. There is a whole host of reasons from physical to mental to poverty that people can be obese.
We have far too many FAT Doctors, in turn they will not address the issue that reflects on themselves. . It is not necessarily shaming but openly communicating regarding an issue that people do not want to address or for some reason do not see as a health concern. We are treating symptoms not underlying cause for problems. “Throw another pill at it”!
I had a really fat "friend" tell me I should be shut out of society because I didn't get covid vaccinated. He was complaining that he had lots of health issues and I was putting his life at risk!!
I had an endocrinologist destroy my health by lowering my thyroid medication dose several times (after thyroid cancer and removal of the gland). I had every hypothyroid symptom in the book, yet my TSH stayed suppressed. I wish doctors helped women more with hormonal issues, rather than tell us we're just getting old, need to diet and exercise.
I went from barely being able to get out of bed and being exhausted, depressed, cold and overweight to now I'm healthy, normal weight, and fitter than most 20-yrs olds, as a woman in my 40s. I had to find a naturopathic doctor to help with my hormones and vitamin deficiencies. I wish everyone had this kind of help. I have my life back.
Why are fat people getting vaccines?
Not helpful, beth!
We always hear this; larger people get sick more often because their immunity is less or somehow they are "compromised". There is NEVER any factual evidence provided by the doctors to support this idea. Could it be that if indeed larger people were getting sick more often then it might be the result of all that extra fat holding more toxic poisons?
There are a number of studies that show obese need greater Vitamin D, which plays a role in health.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/weight-plays-role-in-vitamin-ds-health-benefits/
https://biologyinsights.com/vitamin-d-and-obesity-what-is-the-connection/
Doctors should have a conversation with their patients that is both compassionate and professional. We don’t think being told about other conditions are blood pressure shaming or high cholesterol shaming. But telling someone they have an issue with no support to manage it is not helpful.
The fact that our doctors cannot offer support for healthy weight loss is a major problem!! They should all be required to watch 3 Eric Berg videos a day for a year.
Thank you. This is valuable information. I have obesity, which I have struggled with since childhood. And when I say struggled, I mean I have lost over 50 lbs 3 times and over 40 lbs 5 times, and maintained healthy BMI for a total 10 years in my teens and early 20s via very strict diet and exercise.
I also have psoriatic arthritis, which had a late onset in my 50s. My inflammatory markers are always normal. My coronary calcium score is zero despite elevated LDL.
PsA is not antibody-mediated.But in all my reading (and I work as a medical editor so I can follow most of the research), I can find no clear explanation as to why this obesity-related, immune-cell-mediated condition results in no elevation of my ESR or CRP and no changes in my immunoglobulin levels.
The function of the immune system in obesity is insufficiently understood. The weight stigma you allude to is a big part of the reason—the underlying assumption is that obese people have a moral failure, and that invalidates any claim we might have to research focusing on our physiology.
The notion that many obese have no self control is ignorant and gives people like that horrid beth person above permission to be viciously hateful. In fact I recall reading a study long ago that it was just the opposite. I have, all my life, had to decide when to stop eating because I don't get those signals. I have tried a number of exercises to try to bring them on, and they don't work. I don't eat junk food. I read that much of this can be from early childhood where feeding can set or upset the physical satiety signal, and looking back I can see where this could be true. I remember once in my life I was eating and all of a sudden I just didn't want anymore, even though it was delicious. Once. It was marvelous. That's why I remember it.
Fat shaming is in the ear of the beholder. It's our job to reach beyond the shame to a place where people can hear us.
Shaming is in the mouth of nasty people like that horrid beth above, and it's time to call their false moral superiority out. Where some people eat for comfort, it generates the cycle. Some people also want to be unattractive, as some abuse survivors. There is a whole host of reasons from physical to mental to poverty that people can be obese.
We have far too many FAT Doctors, in turn they will not address the issue that reflects on themselves. . It is not necessarily shaming but openly communicating regarding an issue that people do not want to address or for some reason do not see as a health concern. We are treating symptoms not underlying cause for problems. “Throw another pill at it”!
I had a really fat "friend" tell me I should be shut out of society because I didn't get covid vaccinated. He was complaining that he had lots of health issues and I was putting his life at risk!!
I had an endocrinologist destroy my health by lowering my thyroid medication dose several times (after thyroid cancer and removal of the gland). I had every hypothyroid symptom in the book, yet my TSH stayed suppressed. I wish doctors helped women more with hormonal issues, rather than tell us we're just getting old, need to diet and exercise.
I went from barely being able to get out of bed and being exhausted, depressed, cold and overweight to now I'm healthy, normal weight, and fitter than most 20-yrs olds, as a woman in my 40s. I had to find a naturopathic doctor to help with my hormones and vitamin deficiencies. I wish everyone had this kind of help. I have my life back.