In this rebuttal to Scott Gottlieb, we assert that the inhumanity of vaccine risk, injury and death denialism must end. The myopic view on vaccines must, as well.
Have you looked at any of the science that suggests never having measles increases one's risk of getting cancer? Actually, I am not sure if the science is confined to those who have not had measles for any reason, or the combined problem of having the vaccine and never having the measles.
Perfect James, as usual. I still wish to present what I published many years ago as we confronted the irreparable harm done to our son rendering him incompetent more than 30 years ago:
“Vaccines Are Unavoidably Unsafe” Don’t take my word for it. These are the words of Justice Scalia in Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, LLC in a Supreme Court decision in 2011. Unfortunately, due to the protections afforded the vaccine maker in the National Childhood Vaccine Act of 1986, the Court ruled against a vaccine injured plaintiff in the case. How?
In the 1980s, children were having adverse reactions to the DTP (diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis) vaccine. Lots of lawsuits were being filed against docs and vaccine manufacturers. This caused the pharmaceutical industry to threaten pulling out of the vaccine market, and the alarm bells rang that the nation’s health and safety were at risk. Why were vaccine manufacturers getting ready to take their ball and go home? Because vaccines fall into a class of products considered “unavoidably unsafe.” I am not kidding you. This “unavoidable” word comes from the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act itself “products which, in the present state of human knowledge, are quite incapable of being made safe.”
In 1986, Congress decided on a way to compensate folks for these avoidable injuries and death. It is called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. From 2001 until 2011 the program has compensated about 2500 families a total of $2 billion. There has been close to $4 billion paid to date since inception. But, that represents only a small fraction of those who actually brought claims to the Vaccine Court. You see, there is a 36 month window to bring the claim. There is no “tolling” granted for minors, unlike all the Civil Courts in the U.S. Guess what? Neurological injuries may not present in infants for long after 36 months. Furthermore, who knows how many cases were never brought by attorneys on behalf of a vaccine injured child, because the statute of limitations ran out?
Don’t let anyone tell you that vaccines don’t cause injury. They have, they do and they will do so in the future. For years, Thimerosal was used as a preservative in multi-dose vials. While still proclaiming it “safe”, vaccine makers “voluntarily” removed Thimerosal. It is still present in trace amounts and in flu vaccine. Thimerosal was never approved by the FDA, as the patents predated the establishment of said regulations. Worried?
With nearly 6,000 cases pending the USCFC held the “Omnibus Autism Hearings.” They decided not to make “autism” a “table injury.” How convenient. Since there would never be enough money to pay for all who claim an “autism” injury. But, there have been many cases compensated for “encephalopathy” as a diagnosis with reference to autism. You can read it for yourself:
For the record, I am not “anti-vaccine.” Both of my children were fully vaccinated. Unfortunately for us, our son was neurologically disabled by vaccines. It is indisputable, yet the government and the vaccine makers still think that there is a “greater good” to be served.
They may be right. But, let’s not fool ourselves. Vaccines can be made safer. It is about money.
What must also END is the Major change that has happened within the Department of Health and Well Being over the past at least 40 years. "The Department of Health and Welfare" now have so many who really seem to believe it is "The Department of Wealth and Hellfare"
If an unproven item such as a Vaccine will generate some BIG INCOME but, may wound unknown numbers or make untold numbers DIE, hey that is for sure a BIG WIN. Sensor all those those taking it. That makes CLINICAL PROOF a Reality. Offer Financial incentive$ to get the general public on board. Offer All those who may have issues of taking it, BIG TIME Mockery. Prevent them from living. Again Sensor All those who have bad side effects or deaths as it prevents your Medical $ucce$$. To Hell with them!!
This is the New Department of "Wealth and Hellfare". It also helps reduce the Overall World Population.
Thank you! This challenge is long overdue. I see these kinds of arguments all the time...that emphasize the risks of disease, but never address the risks of vaccines or mention non-vaccine solutions.
I will never take vaccines seriously as "medicine". Ever.
When Frederick Klenner "cured" 60/60 polio patients in no more than 4 days in the mid 1940s using Vitamin C, I would think that vaccines are utterly worthless. This procedure was duplicated many times and no adverse effects have been found.
That was ten years before the Salk vaccine and 15 before Sabin's.
If we want to talk about how vaccines are worthless, the Klenner Phenomenon needs to be front and center. It utterly destroys phoney vaccine science and shows how ineffective the polio vaccines were and continue to be, while indicting all other vaccines based on the same outdated science.
I was surprised to hear that HPV can cause real harm. Are you referring to cervical cancer? I have long suspected that's a bunch of propaganda and flawed science.
I think you miss read EBV (Epstein Barr Virus) as HPV...
"If it is valid to argue that a small fraction of EBV infections lead to lymphoma decades later, it is equally valid to ask whether a small fraction of immune-modulating interventions—administered repeatedly, early in life, and without long-term inert placebos—may also produce delayed autoimmune, neurological, or inflammatory consequences in susceptible individuals."
This is discouraging. Maybe I’m mistaken or maybe I’m being unfair, but the implicit philosophy held by proponents of vaccine mandates (like Gottlieb) seems to be “from each according to their ability; to each according to their need regardless of the hazards presented to those who have the ability to give.” The implicit philosophy held by some opponents of vaccine mandates (like James Lyons-Weiler) seems to be “from each according to their ability; to each according to their need provided those with the ability to give can be reassured of reasonable vaccine safety and maybe have access to material recompense if they’re damaged from vaccines.” BOTH POSITIONS ARE COMMUNIST CLAPTRAP! Man is not a sacrificial animal and has absolutely no moral duty to sacrifice himself in large or small measure for the alleged good of his fellow man or the alleged “public good,” full stop! Vaccine mandates aren’t evil because vaccines carry some measure of risk; they’re evil because they usurp the free will of free men! Mandates are a form of involuntary servitude—slavery! No rational person outside the deeply collectivistic medical profession argues that slavery is okay provided that the work the slave does for the master is deemed reasonably safe and provided that the slave’s work allegedly benefits someone in need somewhere and provided that the slave gets just compensation for any injury resulting from his slave labor.
There is no debate. All vaccines and mRNA substances contain man made chemical horrors your body does not like or require. Humans have survived quite well for thousands of years using NO toxic and deadly vaccines. There is no proof that mankind needs any vaccines to live healthier and longer.
He is a shameless, money 💰 hungry man.
Have you looked at any of the science that suggests never having measles increases one's risk of getting cancer? Actually, I am not sure if the science is confined to those who have not had measles for any reason, or the combined problem of having the vaccine and never having the measles.
My brother and I both had the measles when we were kids and they vaccinated us against measles anyway. Told my mom we would be double protected.
I got the shingles at around thirty six.
Can you please post some of those serious references that uncontroversialy establish the etiological mechanism of viral infection?
Perfect James, as usual. I still wish to present what I published many years ago as we confronted the irreparable harm done to our son rendering him incompetent more than 30 years ago:
“Vaccines Are Unavoidably Unsafe” Don’t take my word for it. These are the words of Justice Scalia in Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, LLC in a Supreme Court decision in 2011. Unfortunately, due to the protections afforded the vaccine maker in the National Childhood Vaccine Act of 1986, the Court ruled against a vaccine injured plaintiff in the case. How?
In the 1980s, children were having adverse reactions to the DTP (diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis) vaccine. Lots of lawsuits were being filed against docs and vaccine manufacturers. This caused the pharmaceutical industry to threaten pulling out of the vaccine market, and the alarm bells rang that the nation’s health and safety were at risk. Why were vaccine manufacturers getting ready to take their ball and go home? Because vaccines fall into a class of products considered “unavoidably unsafe.” I am not kidding you. This “unavoidable” word comes from the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act itself “products which, in the present state of human knowledge, are quite incapable of being made safe.”
In 1986, Congress decided on a way to compensate folks for these avoidable injuries and death. It is called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. From 2001 until 2011 the program has compensated about 2500 families a total of $2 billion. There has been close to $4 billion paid to date since inception. But, that represents only a small fraction of those who actually brought claims to the Vaccine Court. You see, there is a 36 month window to bring the claim. There is no “tolling” granted for minors, unlike all the Civil Courts in the U.S. Guess what? Neurological injuries may not present in infants for long after 36 months. Furthermore, who knows how many cases were never brought by attorneys on behalf of a vaccine injured child, because the statute of limitations ran out?
Don’t let anyone tell you that vaccines don’t cause injury. They have, they do and they will do so in the future. For years, Thimerosal was used as a preservative in multi-dose vials. While still proclaiming it “safe”, vaccine makers “voluntarily” removed Thimerosal. It is still present in trace amounts and in flu vaccine. Thimerosal was never approved by the FDA, as the patents predated the establishment of said regulations. Worried?
With nearly 6,000 cases pending the USCFC held the “Omnibus Autism Hearings.” They decided not to make “autism” a “table injury.” How convenient. Since there would never be enough money to pay for all who claim an “autism” injury. But, there have been many cases compensated for “encephalopathy” as a diagnosis with reference to autism. You can read it for yourself:
http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1681&context=...
For the record, I am not “anti-vaccine.” Both of my children were fully vaccinated. Unfortunately for us, our son was neurologically disabled by vaccines. It is indisputable, yet the government and the vaccine makers still think that there is a “greater good” to be served.
They may be right. But, let’s not fool ourselves. Vaccines can be made safer. It is about money.
What must also END is the Major change that has happened within the Department of Health and Well Being over the past at least 40 years. "The Department of Health and Welfare" now have so many who really seem to believe it is "The Department of Wealth and Hellfare"
If an unproven item such as a Vaccine will generate some BIG INCOME but, may wound unknown numbers or make untold numbers DIE, hey that is for sure a BIG WIN. Sensor all those those taking it. That makes CLINICAL PROOF a Reality. Offer Financial incentive$ to get the general public on board. Offer All those who may have issues of taking it, BIG TIME Mockery. Prevent them from living. Again Sensor All those who have bad side effects or deaths as it prevents your Medical $ucce$$. To Hell with them!!
This is the New Department of "Wealth and Hellfare". It also helps reduce the Overall World Population.
Thank you! This challenge is long overdue. I see these kinds of arguments all the time...that emphasize the risks of disease, but never address the risks of vaccines or mention non-vaccine solutions.
What an impressive reply!!
I will never take vaccines seriously as "medicine". Ever.
When Frederick Klenner "cured" 60/60 polio patients in no more than 4 days in the mid 1940s using Vitamin C, I would think that vaccines are utterly worthless. This procedure was duplicated many times and no adverse effects have been found.
That was ten years before the Salk vaccine and 15 before Sabin's.
If we want to talk about how vaccines are worthless, the Klenner Phenomenon needs to be front and center. It utterly destroys phoney vaccine science and shows how ineffective the polio vaccines were and continue to be, while indicting all other vaccines based on the same outdated science.
I was surprised to hear that HPV can cause real harm. Are you referring to cervical cancer? I have long suspected that's a bunch of propaganda and flawed science.
I think you miss read EBV (Epstein Barr Virus) as HPV...
"If it is valid to argue that a small fraction of EBV infections lead to lymphoma decades later, it is equally valid to ask whether a small fraction of immune-modulating interventions—administered repeatedly, early in life, and without long-term inert placebos—may also produce delayed autoimmune, neurological, or inflammatory consequences in susceptible individuals."
Thanks for your good intent, but HPV is indeed mentioned in the post. If you’re on a computer, hitting Ctrl-F or command-F will find it in a second.
I'm sorry. You're right.
No worries, have a good day.
"vaccines can also harm some people"
Injecting vaccines is a FUNDAMENTAL IMMUNOLOGICAL FLAW.
So it harms EVERY IMMUNOCOMPETENT PERSON by inducing an inappropriate immune repsonse.
Injected vaccines are the worst mistake in medicine
https://zenodo.org/records/15844676
His EBV lymphoma was like caused due to him being vaccinated. The immune system did not evolve over millions of years to make such mistakes.
I want to know why they believe every single human being on this planet needs a jab.
And why did congress exempt themselves from the Covid Jab?
Because, you see, all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
I look forward to the day that your articles/rebuttals are widely published and read. Thank you.
This is discouraging. Maybe I’m mistaken or maybe I’m being unfair, but the implicit philosophy held by proponents of vaccine mandates (like Gottlieb) seems to be “from each according to their ability; to each according to their need regardless of the hazards presented to those who have the ability to give.” The implicit philosophy held by some opponents of vaccine mandates (like James Lyons-Weiler) seems to be “from each according to their ability; to each according to their need provided those with the ability to give can be reassured of reasonable vaccine safety and maybe have access to material recompense if they’re damaged from vaccines.” BOTH POSITIONS ARE COMMUNIST CLAPTRAP! Man is not a sacrificial animal and has absolutely no moral duty to sacrifice himself in large or small measure for the alleged good of his fellow man or the alleged “public good,” full stop! Vaccine mandates aren’t evil because vaccines carry some measure of risk; they’re evil because they usurp the free will of free men! Mandates are a form of involuntary servitude—slavery! No rational person outside the deeply collectivistic medical profession argues that slavery is okay provided that the work the slave does for the master is deemed reasonably safe and provided that the slave’s work allegedly benefits someone in need somewhere and provided that the slave gets just compensation for any injury resulting from his slave labor.
https://dutytodissent.substack.com/p/we-the-people-demand-a-moratorium
Please sign and share the petition for moratorium on the mRNA/modRNA genetic transfection technology platform:
https://www.change.org/mRNAmoratorium
Signed previously. Thank you for your work here!
There is no debate. All vaccines and mRNA substances contain man made chemical horrors your body does not like or require. Humans have survived quite well for thousands of years using NO toxic and deadly vaccines. There is no proof that mankind needs any vaccines to live healthier and longer.