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Crixcyon's avatar

Aluminum isn't the only toxic substance in vaccines. There can never be a safe and effective vaccine since they are made with toxic substances and there are no viruses to protect against anyway. It's all a fallacy for profit scam.

These arguments are ridiculous. The entire vaccine schedule needs to be totally destroyed. There is no proof that vaccines protect anyone from anything nor are they required for healthy living.

Andy's avatar

Aluminum in vaccines is only verified at the batch level, never in the individual vial that’s actually injected and because the adjuvant is a settling suspension (solid particles you have to shake up), not something evenly dissolved, the real per-dose amount can vary vial-to-vial even when the batch average is in spec. When independent researchers actually measured commercial vials, most didn’t match their labels (the core complaint, that no one independently re-verifies the number, stands unrebutted). The upshot: even flawless safety data for a given dose can’t confirm safety of a shot whose actual content was never verified at the point of injection. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-F/part-610/subpart-B/section-610.15

The rule sets the ceiling on the amount of aluminum in the recommended individual dose of a biological product….note the wording: it’s a per-dose limit, not a per-vial verified content requirement. And critically, it lets manufacturers demonstrate compliance three different ways: 0.85 milligrams if determined by assay; 1.14 milligrams if determined by calculation on the basis of the amount of aluminum compound added; or 1.25 milligrams determined by assay  with special approval. That middle option is the tell compliance can be shown by calculating from how much aluminum was added to the batch, not by measuring what’s actually in the finished product. So the regulation itself contemplates a computed batch figure, not a verified vial figure. What’s more, there has never been an inert placebo controlled trial to verify that aluminum adjuvants are safe for anyone let alone children. This is a fact read the fine print on what the studies actually consider a “placebo.” This is tragic because vaccines can save lives but when you do not have proper quality controls in place you do not do yourself any favors. We should be advocating for tighter quality controls. These companies make billions on government contracts and exempt from general liability there’s no reason they cannot afford to provide these basic measures to the public. The best way to shoot down critics is not to turn this into another partisan debacle but to actually eliminate the points of criticism by producing data and quality measures that refutes their claims.

The Owlery's avatar

Take away their exemptions, then they'll have a good reason to fix their flaws...

Andy's avatar

Couldn’t agree more!

annapolis73's avatar

“Most people do fine” cannot answer a susceptibility question.""

They will twist themelves into knots over this. It is precisely why the cultists of vaccination made certain to obtain virtual legal liablility protection while deny the right to due process to all of those injured by vaccines.

This was best expressed in Shrek when Lord Farquaad proclaims:

"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make."

Proving yet again that you can get away with murder in America.

Mouzer's avatar

From what I saw during covid, most if not all of these associations are bought and sold. The garbage I read some of them spout about the jab, encouraging it even when certain diseases suggest caution or more, was appalling. You can see how much influence is created: when a new question of safety arises, the internet will be flooded with so-called scientific denials. The latest is the mRNA covid genetic treatment helped cancer patients do better. When the immune system is disregulated, it affects the fight against any disease. Could be true, but I don't buy it when a new mRNA is out for the flu at the same time as these reports.

Ted's avatar

Thank you, James (I think,) for yet another steep learning curve.

Regarding AAI's messaging; however necessary your application of logic supported with citations may be, you're not addressing the religious component, which is the central feature of what is obviously AAI's doctrinal appeal to emotion.

That appeal resonates among those for whom anything that might "fuel vaccine hesitancy" must be eliminated by any means necessary.

As we observed during Covid; when deceit is insufficient, coercion is imposed. Whether or not there is harm, is not the point; it's a function of ideological purity.

As with every secular religion, there are financial influences driving it, but the edifice is founded on credulity, the ROI of ignorance.

Well, I'd best get started downloading and reading the referenced papers. Thank you, as always, for your reasoned and balanced approach.

Jody Eddings's avatar

I agree! I still need to read,

Vaccines, AMEN! By Aaron Siri.

Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

Perhaps they would like to openly debate the legitimacy of the President's Executive Order to replace aluminium adjuvants in vaccines with me?

James Lyons-Weiler, PhD's avatar

Zero chance of that, Chris. Imagine the business they would lose if we actually ended the autoimmunity epidemic!

V. N. Alexander's avatar

"aluminum salts generated a tissue environment in which an antigen encountered days later—not physically mixed with the alum—elicited a strong IgE response." Wow!

Willard Hall's avatar

Also as shadow banned when I try to post on FB.